In my first article on Mike Hoggard I
gave a general overview of some problems I had with him. This article can be read at:
In my
second article I focused on his King James Code using numerics. That article can be accessed here.
Now
on to a different subject, but one that is pertinent and important to
understand.
There are different types of techniques
used in brainwashing. Here are some things that are used for
hypnosis that can help when brainwashing someone. 1) Build a rapport
with the listener, 2) turn off their critical thinking, 3) make
irresistible suggestions, 4) project authority on an issue, 5) help
them (not necessarily in a physical way) even if they don't want it,
so that they feel they owe you, 6) sympathize with them and stress
the importance of them making good decisions (which of course you
will help influence), 7) make them feel insecure about themselves as
if they lack something (in this case knowledge), 8) make them believe
your opinion is the one that matters, 9) shame, scold, or blame them
or others, 10) use your power to make them feel threatened in some
way, as in “I am right and you are wrong,” 11) use body language
to manipulate them,12) find their weak points and exploit them.
When embarking on a course of action to
change people's minds, it is important to also focus on an enemy
(Hoggard is obsessed with the Masons and the giants and how they plan
on changing our DNA), use repetition when speaking about this enemy to
drive certain associations into the mind (he talks about them
incessantly, repeating things and certain words (like DNA) ad naseum),
and use words such as “imagine”, “picture”, “what if”
(Hoggard's favorite phrase is “think about this”), to force them
to see a scenario you want them to believe. Along with this, to change
a world view or way of perceiving things, it is necessary to develop
a new vocabulary. By that it does not mean to create new words, but
to redefine words with which people are already familiar, so that
later these words can be found in a passage, but the meaning can be
changed from the normal understanding. (Hoggard does this quite a
bit. In my other article I presented the following incidents - he
redefined the word “folly” to mean a sexual crime, and he has
redefined the phrase “Sons of God” to only mean
angels, rather than angels in the O.T. and us as adopted children of
God in the N.T., so that now he has us becoming angels upon death
thereby changing established theology. He also has changed the
doctrine of salvation to be about the giants.)
It is also a good technique to get
people into a trance-like state to make them more receptive to these
changes, by lulling them into a semi-conscious state. This can be
done simply by boring them with rhetoric which rambles incoherently,
as in stream of conscious thinking out loud or in use of constant
repetition. (This is exactly how Hoggard preaches. He rambles all
over for the first hour or so, never getting around to his topic at
least until then. By that point I know my brain is screaming. I have
to listen to him in small increments or I tune out, as I am sure do
others. He also repeats ideas or words or phrases a lot.) In a
half-asleep state, the mind is receptive to changes in definitions,
new ideas which might conflict, and critical thinking skills will be
turned off. In many cases, the things being said will not even be
consciously heard, but will by-pass the thinking mind and just go
straight into the brain for storage. People won't hear (by that I mean consciously comprehend) the
things which would normally make them get alarmed and make them
realize that something is wrong. I know this from talking to people
about his sermons. They do not even hear the things I hear until
they go back and listen for what I have told them he has said. Then
they hear it.
While I will not say that Mike Hoggard
is deliberately doing this, (I will merely say that Satan is
very effectively manipulating him) the fact is, he is doing
this. As already mentioned, when I have logged on to a sermon based
on the title, I find that within that first hour, often the subject
isn't even mentioned. He seems to start at one point, and then
aimlessly wanders around under the guise of making connections between
things based upon numbers or word associations, but often these
things have no end in sight. When concluded one is led to say,
“okay, and....what is the point? Where are we going with this?”
After a hour of this, one is lulled into a semi-conscious state and
not really listening to what he says. It is at this point that he
starts in doing things such as redefining words. For an example of
this, I refer you to the above incident with the word “folly”
where he redefined it as meaning “sex crimes.” He also has spent
time talking about the word “thorns” in one of his messages. Let
me show you how this redefining of words could be used to change
one's entire viewpoint about another person, so that one then might
be prone to mistrust that person.
While
when preaching on “folly” Mike
never mentioned the passage about Paul asking the Corinthians to bear
with him in his folly, and for good reason, let's use this as an
example. During the course of this sermon, he redefined the word
“folly” from meaning “foolishness” to meaning “sexual
sins or crimes.” You now associate the word “folly” with sex sins and
crimes.
I also listened to a sermon he gave about thorns. In the sermon on
thorns that I excerpt and use to demonstrate this technique below
Hoggard leads you to the idea that thorns mean sin and eventually he
leads to thorns having to do with DNA. Now I will give an example below
to show you how this redefining works to change your
entire viewpoint. Given his redefinitions we will have “folly” meaning
sex crimes,
and “thorns” meaning “sin” and associated with DNA.
Now look at where something you once understood in a completely
different way can now be altered. First we go to the passage where
Paul talks about the thorn in the flesh he has, and how he has prayed
for God to rid him of it. 2 Corinthians 12:7 “And lest I should
be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations,
there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the
messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted
above measure.” So now instead of thinking, as most scholars
have thought, that he was speaking of his poor eyesight (Galatians
6:11 “Ye see how large a letter I have written unto you with
mine own hand.”
This would be a thorn in his side as it would be a hard thing given
his calling as an apostle and all the studying, reading, and writing
he would need to do), we now must reinterpret it via Mike's
definitions to mean that Paul has a sin. And not just any sin, but
using Mike's definitions, a sin connected with a messenger of Satan
(angels), and DNA. (Remember fallen angels corrupting man's DNA is
his biggest message). Now you are taken to the passage about Paul
wishing people were celibate as he is. 1 Corinthians 7:7-8 “For
I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his
proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them
if they abide even as I.” So we see that Paul has chosen to
remain celibate. Now we are taken to another passage. 2 Corinthians
11:1 “Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly:
and indeed bear with me.” Now before adopting all these newly
defined words, we used to interpret it that Paul preferred to remain
celibate so that he could devote himself totally to the Lord and not
have to worry about a wife. We also know that he had eyesight
problems which has been assumed to be the thorn in the flesh that God
would not remove. Lastly we have been told that he is asking the
Corinthians to bear with him in his folly, which we used to interpret
as meaning any little foolishness on his part, as we are all human
and make mistakes. But you have been reprogrammed. What has your
brain been set up to now see this as meaning, without anyone saying a
word? You now immediately make the connection that Paul's thorn in
the flesh is that he is guilty of sexual sins and perversions. That
would certainly be influenced by a demonic messenger, and sex and DNA
(genetic material via sperm and egg) go hand in hand and that is probably why he has to remain celibate.
Maybe there is a problem in his DNA? Now should we trust what Paul
says? See how this programming works? This new interpretation is not
what the Scriptures teach about Paul. Not at all. But it is the
interpretation you now come to thanks to Mike Hoggard's new
definitions.
So
this basically explains what I wanted to
say about Hoggard's technique, but if interested in actually seeing it
in action, I have below a synopsis and some transcription of his sermon
on thorns for anyone who wants to be thorough in understanding what is
going on. It is easy to find this sermon on Youtube by
searching for Mike Hoggard and Crown of thorns. Understand that I do not disagree with some things he says, for instance, we all still do sin and need to repent, but notice that he never follows up his chastisement of us with telling us that we should repent and get right with God if we have sinned. He merely tells us how we commit some heinous sins. And Christ did take the curse of sin upon Himself, but there is much more inserted into his sermon than these simple truths. These are the truths around which he builds his other teachings, which are not necessarily truths.
Before beginning, I want to recap
techniques of brainwashing. Start by rambling so that people become
bored and only half listen so that you can turn off critical thinking
(Hoggard is good at this). Build a rapport (he is very folksy and
makes you feel like you are one of his buddies). Project an air of
authority. (Hoggard is the one receiving the direct revelations from
God, unlike you). Focus on an enemy (we see the giants coming into
practically every sermon, as well as the Masons). Make irresistible
suggestions, (he is always making hints toward an idea without
stating them, and asking you to jump to the conclusion that he says are
fascinating or interesting and if you can figure out what
he is suggesting, then you are one of the “in” crowd), make them
feel you are helping them (to see the truth that they are otherwise
too dumb to understand), sympathize with their need to want to make
good decisions about what to believe (so that they don't become
apostate like everyone else), make them feel insecure about their own
opinions or beliefs, (as if they lack the proper insight due to lack
of special revelation), make them feel that yours (the person doing
the brainwashing) is the only opinion that matters (Mike is the
recipient of all this special knowledge from God, so his opinion is
better than yours), shame or scold them so that they
feel they should believe you and use your position/power to make them
feel threatened, exploit their weak points (he will often point out
how sinful you are), use body language (he is always holding up the
books and using facial expressions), repeat things over and over to
drill them into the mind (Hoggard is good at repeating things) , use
words such as “picture”, “visualize”, “draw”, “imagine”,
“think”, (Hoggard's favorite phrase is “think about this”)
and redefine a vocabulary (which I have shown how he does this).
Let's see how many of these things we find in the sermon below.
Direct quotes are in italics. Note
things in bold print.
At
the beginning of the sermon Hoggard
starts talking about examples and symbols and the thorns on Jesus head
at the crucifixion. He goes on for about twenty-five minutes before
getting to where I pick it up here. He starts by telling us how thorns
do two things - they pain and sting. “Thorns were
designed by God to do one thing, and that is pierce and sting. So it
requires a little bit of thought on our part (he's
going to help you understand what you didn't know before)
in looking at thorns. Everybody knows thorns, we all know what a
thorn is. Thorns are all over the world. (the
word “thorn” is repeated a lot). And so God
is drawing this picture (use
of the word “draw”) for us of something that we
are able to recognize and we think about what a
thorn represents. And what does it mean, why was it put upon His
head? (Now you are going to get
your definition). Why was it there? And so for our
answers to understanding the crown of thorns, let us go to the
Scriptures. (According to
Hoggard all his definitions come from the Scriptures, but as shown,
he manipulates the Scriptures to come up with his definitions and often uses occult Masonic books for some of his ideas). Let's
go to actually the first place in the Bible that uses the word thorn,
where thorns appear. We go back to Genesis chapter 3. As it was back
then, so shall it be is what the Bible says.” (It doesn't
exactly say it that way.) Then he goes to Gen.3 and says to think
about what happens. (Again notice his favorite catch phrase that
he repeats). “Number 1, we have the temptation of Eve and we
have the sin of Eve and Adam. We have
all kinds of symbols here,
(most of Hoggards teachings are
built on symbology, not the straightforward face value of a verse)
the fruit. Your eyes being open.
(Notice
that he is implanting the thought that it is your
eyes
being open, not Eve's. He's telling you that your eyes are about to
be opened by what he says.) The
fact that Eve was looking at the tree and all three things that
compel us to sin showed up. The lust of the flesh. The lust of the
eyes and the pride of life. I want you to think of these
three things as we study this idea of thorns,
(repetition of think with guided
thinking) because we're going to see it a little bit later.
We're going to see it in
the Scriptures, we're going to see it out
of the Scriptures. (He
is telling you that his ideas are also coming from a source besides
the Bible on this – as a spoiler, he means the Masonic “bibles”
by Manly Hall or Albert Pike) So number one,
the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride
of life. (repetition) And
those things that the devil used to tempt Eve when she ate of the
fruit and she gave it to her husband. Those things had consequences.
And I want you to think about this. (again
telling you to think) Sin always has consequences to it.
There are always reactions to our actions. God had actually warned,
He had actually warned Adam what would happen in the day that he ate
of the fruit. He said, ye shall surely die. And God's word was
absolute, it cannot be broken. The devil also told Eve something else
that we'll look at later on.” He then goes to Gen. 3:17-18 and
reads it. “And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened
unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I
commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the
ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of
thy life; Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and
thou shalt eat the herb of the field.” He points out and says
“now we are getting an understanding.” (you
are receiving hidden revelation via Mike, which makes him an
authority and his opinion counts and makes you special for receiving
it and here it comes). That “the thorns symbolize a
curse.” (Notice how symbolism again enters in. And thorns are not symbolic of the curse, they are the result of the curse.) That now
Adam will have to work and labor and eat bread in sorrow and he will
be tired and hate his job, because of man's sinfulness. (By the way,
this is not hidden revelation. This is merely what the Scriptures
say, so revelation is not needed). That instead of good stuff coming
up, thorns will be coming up. He says that they aren't attractive or
good for anything and they hurt when we touch them. Then he says that
we should “think about things that sting in the
Bible....(note how he
has told you you will be receiving understanding, then starts guiding
you toward the thought and associations he wants you to have) The
Bible is going to say this is as that in relation to things that
sting (he is telling you that he is going to be making
associations, but notice that he says that it is the Bible making these
associations, not him).....Disobedience to God seems to be the theme that surrounds
this idea of thorns. That God tells us that when we are obedient
things are good.” So now we are to associate thorns with
stinging and disobedience. He says disobedience is the theme, but he adds far more than that to his meaning of thorns.
He then makes the comparison that just
as God took Israel out of Egypt, He takes us out of our sins when we
accept Him, and just as Israel promised to follow Him into the
promised land God will lead us into the “promised land”. But just
as Israel didn't clean out the land of giants when they went in (Here
we go again with the giants. Everything always comes back to the
giants, doesn't it? This is the enemy on which he focuses), we make
all kinds of promises to God how we will be good, but we aren't. (Now
comes the shame and scolding). He says that nobody after they get
saved leads a perfect unblemished life. Then he quotes Numbers 33:55
“But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from
before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let
remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your
sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.” (So now we
have been guided to also have a direct association between thorns and
giants).
Now we are told that there will be
thorns in your side as a result of you not getting rid of the things
you promised God you would get rid of but didn't. (Here we see the
shame and scolding again). He says that we defile ourselves
and it is a thorn in our flesh. (Note that thorns are now
associated with the word defile). It has consequences.
“Disobedience to God equals thorns. Thorns in your
side. They hurt and fester. But this is what God said would happen.
If we're not careful the thorns will thrive and take over.” He
quotes Joshua 23:13 “Know for a certainty that the LORD your God
will no more drive out any of these nations from before you; but they
shall be snares and traps unto you, and scourges in your sides, and
thorns in your eyes, until ye perish from off this good land which
the LORD your God hath given you.” (Again associating thorns with
giants). He says to look at the exact language of the KJV Bible. He
repeats several times to “think about it.” He now
mentions how the people left in Canaan that were not gotten rid of
due to disobedience became thorns in their side the rest of their
lives and so do our sins. So now he has made the connection between
our sin and giants several times by making thorns the connecting
thought. (As he believes that the return of the nephilim/giants to
infect our DNA with their DNA is the mark of the beast, you can see
how he is leading you to see how his teaching of the connection
between sin (accepting the mark) and the mark of the beast being DNA
of the angels/nephilim/giants is validated.)
Hoggard then says that he has met
Belial, who is the devil, several times. (Hoggard actually states
that he has met the devil, Belial himself. Several times in fact.
In person? How many people do you know who personally have
encountered Satan several times?) He then quotes 2 Sam 23:6 “But
the sons of Belial shall be all of them as thorns thrust away,
because they cannot be taken with hands.” He says that the
important word here is “as.” Of all the words in the sentence,
the word “as” is the most important? He talks about the phrase
sons of Belial or children of Belial saying that there is no
fellowship between Christ and the devil. This is what he gets from
the word “as”? (If he were to read the entire passage, he would
find that this verse is saying that the wicked must be dealt with as
one deals with thorns. One cannot gently take them by the hand and
uproot them. One must use gloves and deal with them by chopping them
down, as that is the only way to get rid of them.) Then he moves on
from that and says that Gen. 3 teaches us that Satan has a seed. (Now again
we see him leading you to the connection and thought that
thorns are speaking of the actual seed of Satan, which includes the
giants). That he has offspring. The sons of Belial are his
offspring. They hate God and God's people. It says the sons of
Belial will be “as” thorns. We have people all around us that
are wicked, that are thorns. They will have an influence and do
things in the church. “There is one particular identity in the
Scriptures that thorns represent. There are two bloodlines in
Genesis. The seed of woman comes to fruition in Jesus Christ. Who
then would be the fruition or fulfillment of the seed of Belial?
He then tells us to think about it. (An irresistible suggestion. It's a mystery you can solve.)
Hoggard then goes to 2 Chronicles 33
where it talks about Manasseh being taken among the thorns and
carried to Babylon. (This only has relevance because of the following.) He mentions that Manasseh reigned 55 years and
that the words “Satan” and “devils” are mentioned 55 times in
the Bible. So you are to draw a connection between wicked Manasseh and Satan due to the number 55. Why is that necessary? I would think the wickedness would give it away. (Actually Satan is named 56 times and the word devil 60
times. Note his used of his Bible code to show you how right his
opinion is in what he is saying in creating this numerological connection. That his authority of this knowledge supersedes your
simple understanding.) He then makes mention of the importance of the
number 5 and asks you to remember a pentagram. (All this about Manasseh has been to have a reason to talk about the number 5. Now he is leading
you to make connections he wants you to make.) Getting back to the
thorns, he says they represent the wickedness of the world. He then
talks about God warning Adam about the curse and then he throws in
this idea of thorns coming up and thorns sting. (Now we see he
repeats the idea of stinging and he will start reinforcing that
association through the image of bees). Then goes to Psalm 118:10-12
“All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD will I
destroy them. They compassed me about; yea, they compassed me about:
but in the name of the LORD I will destroy them. They compassed me
about like bees; they are quenched as the fire of thorns: for in the
name of the LORD I will destroy them.” This does not say that the
bees are stinging, but are swarming. And these thorns are on fire and
being quenched, not stinging, so this verse really does not work on his
behalf.
Now he gives you a picture image by
talking about how people who used to sit next to him in church hate
God now, and old time preachers have strayed from God and then he
reads the Scripture above in Psalms. He stops at the words “bees” and
“thorns” emphasizing them and asks what they have in common. He
again tells you to “think”.
He shows how big a bee and thorn are and then references how big we
are in comparison. He points out that they are small but have a
sting. Then he points out another similarity between bees and
thorns, and he shows a graphic. (So now he is bringing you to where
he wants you to make the association of bees/sting, and thorns/sting
– to the enemy). He goes to a Masonic apron which has bees on it
and he says what looks like laurel is really a sprig of acacia which
is really a thorn tree, so the Masonic emblem has bees and thorns.
They both point toward something (which he isn't going to tell you right now, as he wants to keep it suspenseful) because they both sting. He stresses
this is very important. You don't know where this is leading, but he will get you there.
He then teaches that Freemasonry teaches
that if you will follow Masonry you will be rejuvinated or revived or be
resurrected in some way. He says that a person or church starts out
wanting to serve the Lord, that we are the vineyard of the Lord, then he
says that while he doesn't believe in works for salvation, one must
labor for the Lord to keep the thorns down. (This is true. He does
also teach truths within his sermons, and I do acknowledge that, but
Satan always has much truth in what he says too. It's the lies you
have to watch.) He gives you a word picture (again drawing pictures
for you) about gardening, and laboring to keep the weeds out. Then
he talks about sloth and laziness. (Take note of the sins he accuses his listeners of during the course of this sermon.) He reads Proverbs 24:30-31 which
talks about nettles and thorns. He asks if you are “getting
it”. (Notice the slight put down that maybe you aren't smart
enough to get it without his help). That the thorns choked the
vineyard because nobody does anything. That when you don't tend the
vineyard, the thorns come in. Now he says that he's about to show
us something that will makes us say, “Mike Hoggard, you're crazy.”
(Note now he tells us that the revelation he is about to give us is
going to set off alarms and bells in our minds. He wants us to turn
those bells and alarms off.) He then says that he just wants us to
look at the Scriptures. (He is trying to make you see that he is only
using the Scriptures to show you all this, but what he doesn't say is
that he often changes the meaning of those Scriptures.) Proverbs 26:9 “ As a thorn goeth up into
the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouth of fools.” (He
now makes another association he wants you to make) He says that
thorns are associated with drunkenness. (Notice that is not what
this verse is teaching. It says as a drunkard cannot handle a thorn
without hurting himself and possibly others, neither does a fool know
how to properly employ a parable, but can use it to hurt others or
himself. The thorns and drunkenness are not equated here at all.
The point is a drunkard would not be capable of handling it
carefully.) He then refers to Nahum 1:10-11 which he says is saying
the same thing. “For while they be folden together as thorns, and
while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as
stubble fully dry. There is one come out of thee, that imagineth evil
against the LORD, a wicked counseller.” Actually this verse says
that while the Assyrians were as untouchable as thorns folded
together (when they were sober and ready), that they would be taken
while drunken and unprepared. (Again it does not equate thorns with
drunkenness. He is leading you to think this.) Hoggard says now we
have from these verses the following associations. We have thorns,
we have drunkenness, we have a wicked counsellor. He tells us we
know that the wicked counsellor is the antichrist. (So now we have
moved from thorns and bees stinging to associating thorns with
drunkenness and antichrist. He then throws in the information that
there was a movie made about the antichrist called the Omen, which he
apparently has seen, and most people are familiar with it even if they haven't seen it. It is a great picture to insert in your brain. In fact he seems to have been obsessed with
aliens, demons, and the like in his youth and spent much time reading or watching shows/movies about such. Note how he is leading
you down this path and giving you associations and pictures to keep
in your mind.)
Now we are taken to Isaiah 34:14 “The
wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the
island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also
shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest.” He talks
about the symbolism of dragons being spirits. (I don't see the word "dragons" in this verse, do you?) They live in
the wilderness, in untended, unkempt ground. (Now where did this come from?
How is this verse relevant to anything he has said so far? Notice
how he will now draw a picture and association for you, and because there
is no Scripture to tie them together, so he will create the connection.)
He says that because of the disobedience of the people, God will
“choke them out of the land by thorns and nettles and owls and
dragons will move in.” (He is combining apples and oranges to get peaches.) Now he states that in an absence of
willingness to obey God, the thorns take over and now your mind will add dragons and owls to that.
He now takes us to Jeremiah 4:3 “For
thus saith the LORD to the men of Judah and Jerusalem, Break up your
fallow ground, and sow not among thorns.” He says that when you
plant your garden you have to break up the ground first. Seed thrown
on stony ground won't produce fruit, it dies. The Bible talks about
beating swords into plowshares. He says that he takes the Bible
which is a sword and turns it into a plowshare and stands in the
pulpit and we let our hearts get hard and it has to be plowed up as
it is hard against the Word of God. (He is all over the place with
metaphors by now, and the chastisement comes again with him making you
feel insecure and grateful to him for his saving
you from yourself. He is in a place of power in your life. He is the one preventing these thorns from popping up by showing you all this "truth".) “Every
now and then as a preacher. Every now and then as a preacher I'll
stand behind our pulpit, and I'll take this sword and I'll beat it
into a plowshare and while I'm preaching my intention is to plow up
the stony ground of people's hearts. Stony ground inhibits God in
our life.” He then goes on to explain that we get adamant
about stuff and that we don't want to accept what the Bible says,(he
also means that people might not want to accept what he says, which
means they are an enemy, as he is one of God's watchers according to
his own testimony) and we need to have our stony hearts plowed up so
that we can accept what God's Word says (according to his
interpretation.)
Then he says that we are to “sow not
among thorns.” Then he asks us "Why did God say that." Obviously we are
not smart enough to understand the concept, so now he takes us back
to the book of Mark and Jesus' teachings. He says that Jesus interprets his
parables and defines the words. (Just as he does). Mark 4:18-19
“These are they which are sown among thorns.” He talks about how
we have thorns in us because we lust, after money, other men's wives,
etc. (Again he paints us with the worst of sins, greed and adultery). He says, “Money
is the biggest liar in the universe.” He warns people to be
careful as they need to cut down the thorns in their life. (I thought
Satan was the biggest liar, but he is equating money with Satan and the
worst thorn and then immediately follows it up with telling you that you
need to cut this thorn out of your life. Possibly
getting rid of some of that money by throwing it his way? Now we get
to the numbers game.) “We see the number three associated with
thorns. (Where exactly did we see that? That's not on his numbers list. Check out the King James Code article)
Heb. 6:7 'For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft
upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is
dressed, receiveth blessing from God: (remember this phrase in bold print later on, for he will use another verse about the rain which will be again pertinent to his teaching you the supposed truth. Your subconscious mind will recall that this was associated with him saying that he was plowing up the ground of your stony heart, even though he won't refer back to this.) But that which beareth thorns
and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be
burned.' This is what happens to people who let the thorns take
over. There is blessing and cursing in this verse. The fruits are
the evidence of our relationship with God, but those who let the
thorns grow are rejected and are cast into the lake of fire.”
(See how the number three now means sin instead of divine
completeness? And where exactly did the number three come in?)
He continues, “Now we're going to
bring something else in with this. We saw things that sting. We saw
the bees and we saw thorns. Notice in Ezekiel Chapter 2 how God
associates it again, (2:6) “And thou, son of man, be not afraid of
them, neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns be
with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of
their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they be a
rebellious house.” (Now
Hoggard is going to create yet another association to move this
thought further along the path he wants you to take. Look how he now
creates a connection to make thorns mean “words” and "scorpions". While the
verse indicates that in life people are going to be thorns in our
side and their words may hurt, it does not mean that every time you
see the word “thorns” you should immediately associate it with
“words.”) Notice this that God is having Ezekiel preach
to a people who are going to use words against him. What did the
Bible say that the serpent used against Eve? (Now
he has created a connection that let's him lead you back to the
incident that will let him bring in his numerology and thereby back
to his favorite subject, DNA. Notice that this journey from starting
with thorns has meandered around for the express purpose of bringing
you to his favorite subject, that of DNA and the giants.)
There
are some people who have this idea that the serpent, the devil, mated
with Eve. The Bible doesn't say that anywhere. You know what the
Bible says Satan did? He used words on her and God is saying that in
Ezekiel chapter two that these words are like thorns and briars, and
he's dwelling among scorpions. (Now
we stop to draw attention to scorpions by having you think
on the word “sting”. This will lead again to fallen angels via
Revelation which again brings us back to the incident of the angels
mating with women and creating giants.) Stop and think
about it. (Again he is using his
catch phrase to tell you that you need to force your brain to see the
“logic” he is laying out for you.) We have bees, we
have thorns, briars. We have nettles and they all sting. (Note the repetition of the mention of these things.) The Bible
uses the phrase cockles and when I was a kid running through the
woods we used to get cockle burrs stuck on our pants they have little
stingers on them that grab ahold of things. We have scorpions. (Notice
he gives you an imagery to visualize.) Things that sting.
(Again note the repetition of the word “sting” over and over.)
And in some cases like with bees and scorpions when they
sting they inject poison. By the way, how does a serpent get
his poison into you? With these little fangs in his mouth that, that
pierce and they sting. (Notice the constant use of imagery.) You see how the Bible is relating all of these
things together, (actually it is
Mike that is relating some of these things together by not looking at
the verses in context. He is drawing parallels to lead to a point of
his own making, not necessarily of God's making.) bees and
thorns and scorpions and nettles and serpents.(Note
that none of these verses mentioned serpents, did they? Mike has
pulled that into the mix himself.) Things that sting or
things that pierce. Think about the Scriptures.
Think about the symbolism in the Scriptures. (His
entire teaching in this sermon has to do not with what the Scriptures
say directly, but about all the symbolism he finds within them. So
what do the Scriptures in context actually teach? You are never
told.) And now let's look at things. These scorpions,
these thorns, these things that sting.
Revelation chapter 9 Verse 1
the Bible says 'And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall
from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the
bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a
smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun
and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And
there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was
given power, as - there's that word “as” - the scorpions of the
earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not
hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any
tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their
foreheads. And to them it was given that they should not kill them,
but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was
as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. And in those
days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to
die, and death shall flee from them. And the shapes of the locusts
were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were
as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of
men. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as
the teeth of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were
breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound
of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails
like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their
power was to hurt men five months. And they had a king over them,
which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew
tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.'
And I want you to notice in Revelation 9 verse 10 'and they had tails
and their stings were in their tails' (He
misquotes this.) Now let me stop right here because I want
you to be thinking about something in the Bible that has a sting to
it and what that sting is. (Again
he is telling you to think. How many times has he done that in this
sermon? He is telling you to implant the idea that he is about to
give you into your brain. Now if you have fallen into that
semi-conscious attitude mentioned before, what happens every time he
tells you to think? You obey the command and insert the information
he is giving you as factual without using your critical thinking
skills.) What all these thorns and bees and everything,
what they ultimately represent. (Now
we come to the point he is really getting to, for you are told this
is the ultimate meaning he wants you to connect to the word thorns.)
And by the way, these scorpions, these sting things, they
have a king. A king wears a crown. Are you getting where we're going
here? (Are you spiritual enough
to understand this hidden meaning? Are you special?)
Revelation 9:11, I think there's something (in this verse) about September 11th
and I'm going to show a little bit of it. 9-11. (Catch the use of numerology?) Revelation 9:11.
(Seriously? We are going to try
to make a connection between 9-11 and the king of the bottomless pit
through numerology? He's kidding, right?) And they had a
king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name
in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his
name Apollyon. He is the king of all stings. Okay, he's the sting
king. (A little memory devise with a little humor here?)
I guess you could say it. There was a movie called the Scorpion King.
It was about him. (I don't think
that is exactly accurate. The movie was not based on the Bible.)
The sting represents 1 Corinthians 15. It represents death. The
sting of death is sin.”
He
repeats again that bees, thorns, the serpent all sting. He tells you
again to think about the king (the king of the scorpions).
“Think of what the devil said to her that was in contradiction to
what God said. In other words the sting is coming. He got Eve to
eat by lying. He added one word to what God said and completely
changed the meaning. This number 5 is always associated with death.
(Where does the Bible teach
that?) The 5 books of the law are the law of sin and
death. (That does not make the
number 5 mean death.) The pentagram is the symbol of
Lucifer. It has five points that “look exactly like thorns” When
he looks at a pentagram he sees a crown of thorns. (Again
with the picture imagery so that you will see this picture in your
mind every time you hear the word “thorns”.) Now
he says that he has counted the number of words that Satan said to
Eve. It is “Exactly 46 words which is the number of
chromosomes in our cells. Where our DNA is stored. Our DNA always
brings about death. It is built into our DNA. The thorns are built
into us by way of our chromosomes, our own DNA.” (Now
I cannot read Hebrew, but by going to an interlinear Hebrew/English
Bible, it would appear that Satan said 28 or so words to Eve, as he
did not speak in English. Even if it were a few more, which it does
not appear to be, it comes nowhere near the 46 Hoggard says it is.
But as he is desperately trying to get you to the subject of DNA, he
has now taken you through this long round-about journey through the
word “thorn” and ended up here in Genesis, telling you that the
46 (English translated) words that Satan spoke to Eve has everything
to do with DNA because of the number 46. Can it be seen that this is
sheer manipulation?)
Now he
continues, “Matthew 7:16-20 Ye shall know them by their
fruits..Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of
thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth
good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good
tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring
forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is
hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye
shall know them.” Notice how he's pointing out an association between corrupt trees and
thorns and thistles. (Yet
another association he wants you to have with thorns.) Now
I mentioned the 46 words that Lucifer spoke to Eve in the garden
associated with our chromosomes our DNA. (Again
there is no association at all between the number of words Satan
spoke to Eve and DNA. That is a ridiculous statement.) And
I mentioned when we read this earlier, I mentioned about the very word
of the Scriptures. How they were used to describe what the soldiers
did with Jesus. (I don't remember what he said about that, but of course the words in the Bible described what the soldiers did to Jesus. What else would they do? I must have missed some mystical connection that he made.) Now, number 1, we have a crown, okay, we have a
king, something that reigns over mankind. We have thorns we see the
symbolism there (He is reminding
you of all the connections he has made to the word “thorns”), but
notice in John chapter 19 verse 2 “and the soldiers platted a crown
of thorns.(Okay, now I see what he was referring to when he was talking about the "word of Scriptures" being used to describe what the soldiers did to Jesus. He's focusing on the word "platted." He is going to pull
all these ideas he has been laying down together for you.)
I've been studying the Bible and I grew up in church (He
is telling you his credentials so that you respect his authority on
this matter) and I've read that thing I don't know how many
times and I decided to just go look up what the word plat means, when
they platted a crown, and you know what the word plat means? (Apparently he thinks you wouldn't since he didn't.) They
braided it. Wove it together.
(I think most people probably already knew that plat meant to braid
or twist together. To make a crown out of thorns it would require
that they twist it together so that it would stay in the circular
shape. It was not done for the purpose he is about to state. This is
coming straight out of his own imagination, not the Bible.)
It was a symbol of DNA. (Seriously?
Are you going to believe this? The soldiers twisted it together so that it would resemble DNA? They didn't even know about DNA.) The coiling, the coiling
(note the repetition of the word
“coiling” for emphasis) DNA. The ribbon-like (again,
painting a picture) DNA. The strands woven together,
platted together, braided together, (again,
repetition and emphasis to implant the thought) is what they did. (Now
we get to his favorite topic, DNA and Masons.)
It's our
own, it's our own DNA that's ruling over us in our flesh that's
killing us and it needs to be crucified, it needs to be killed. Let
me thrown this in here very quickly. (Now
he throws in something he wants to implant in your mind that is not
really on topic, but he wants that connection made in your mind.)
We're talking about Freemasonry and their symbols, (we
were?) and they use this sprig of acacia and I'll show you
how in a little bit. They use this sprig of acacia and there's a
Masonic emblem where you have a woman. Now a woman in symbolism
always represents mystery Babylon the great (That
is a very broad statement. Certain women in religious contexts
symbolically do, but not every woman.) and she is a mother.
And in this particular case this mother is holding a sprig of acacia
or thorns in her hand and she is weeping over what Masons call the
broken column. (Not to be picky, but in this particular picture, the woman is Virgo the Virgin and is not a mother.) Now the broken column in all the Masonic literature
represents the god-like Osiris, or Bacchus or Apollo or any of these
other gods who died and was broken up and they're waiting his
resurrection but here's the interesting thing associated with these
thorns, that you have Saturn. Father time they call him with wings,
Saturn is another name for Satan, and you know what he's doing with
her hair? He's braiding her hair to make ringlets, to make like DNA.
(Are you following this, or is
this rambling losing you? Now ringlets represent DNA? Really?)
Think about a column that was broken. 9-11. September 11,
2001. 9-11 (Again he's bringing
this sermon which was supposed to be about the crown of thorns on
Jesus head to be about 9-11? And when someone drew that picture ages ago they had DNA and 9-11 in mind?) Remember the king of the
bottomless pit. There are like three or four different versions of
this (drawing of Statue of Liberty with twin towers burning in background) that I saw
after 9-11 and I caught on to the symbolism of it. (At this
point I feel compelled to stop and say that he isn't wrong about the
Statue of Liberty representing Babylon or whatever goddess you want to
call her, and that there was a reason behind the destruction of the twin
towers as a sacrifice to Satan, but he is approaching all this in such a
round about way with no real organization or sense, and inserting
things that are manipulated and incorrect that one almost is required to
dismiss it all.) Remember we have
mystery Babylon who was mourning over the broken column with acacia
in her hand and here we have these graphics of the Statue of Liberty,
the goddess with thorns coming...she has a crown of thorns, seven of
them, (I thought 5 was the pertinent number) and she is weeping over the broken columns of 9-11. Hmm. (I don't deny that the occult and Masons use symbols, and use them to refer to acts they are committing now. This is true. However, he is again bringing in all this information in the most abstract way, so that people do not understand how this all applies and where it comes from. Plus he is adding in things that are not correct, which then taints the true information.)
Here's what I was going to talk about last week that I, .... The
Lord said wait and I'll show it to you. (So
now the Lord (?) is telling him that he should not share things and that Mike has to wait on further revelations that
nobody else has every known about 9-11? Okay. Do you want to believe
that?) I was dealing with these things, the issues that
come out of the heart of mankind and there was a....I've seen a lot
of Catholic paintings of Jesus and they always depict Jesus in
various ways usually with very subtle occult symbolism behind it and
I want you to notice this particular Jesus. (He
shows a picture of Jesus with his hand raised and pointing three
fingers.) Number one he has his three fingers raised here.
Remember what thorns represent, the lust of the flesh, the lust of
the eyes, and the pride of life
(when exactly did thorns start representing those three things, even though he has mentioned this before?),
but it's also as above, so below. (Now wait, does he mean that thorns represent as above, so below? I'm confused.) We talked about that in several
videos. Things of heaven fusing together with things of the earth. As
it was, as it was in the days of Noah, the floods came up from the
ground and the floods came down from the skies and that is a picture
of what is going to happen. Angels are going to fall from heaven, and
beasts are gonna rise up from the earth and it's the flood of
ungodliness is going to sweep over planet in days that could be
coming very very soon. (And as
I predicted, here we are at the account in Genesis of the angels
coming down and mating with mankind. This is his obsession.)
And we see that image of Baphomet (shows
a picture of Baphomet) whose holding, he's got two fingers
here, three fingers here, twenty-three and then he's making the
opposite symbol here, twenty-three. (He's
showing that Baphomet has two fingers pointing up in his
right hand, and three fingers pointing down in his left hand.)
That's forty-six, that's our chromosomes, where the DNA is stored.
(So Hoggard has discovered this
mystery that has eluded everyone that Baphomet is symbolizing our
chromosomes with his hand signals? And this came as a revelation
from God obviously, because it most assuredly did not come from the
Bible, where he should be getting his information.) That's
where the sting of death is built into us right now."
Hoggard
then points out that the picture he had of what he calls a Catholic
Jesus as the Catholic church uses this picture, is pointing to his
heart which has flames coming out of it and thorns surrounding it.
“Now remember, Jesus described thorns as being the deceitfulness of
riches.” (Now we're back to thorns being about money.) He then references a previous video where he talked about
things that deceive. Then he asks if we know what is the biggest
deceiver in the world. He tells us it is “the heart of man. Jeremiah 17:9 'The heart is deceitful above all things, and
desperately wicked: who can know it?' Here's what Jesus said about
the heart of man - Mark 7:21-23 'For from within, out of the heart of
men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil
eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from
within, and defile the man.' they're in our hearts.(Remember that I said to keep track of the sins he accuses his followers of. Never does he talk about repentance. Just accusations.) And by the way
there are 13 things here. The York Rite of Freemasonry and we pointed
this out. The York Rite of Freemasonry has 13 steps.” He says
how when you ascend up the ladder of 13 steps it teaches that you
will become as a god, like what Satan told Eve. “Here we have 13
things that are already in our heart. And you can't say I don't have
none of these, bless God, you've got em.” (Now he draws your
notice that you have “13” sins that defile you within you. You are tied to the ladder in Freemasonry, and it's all about DNA.) “I
want you to notice the symbolism in Revelation chapter 13. The number
13 is associated with the beast. (Now
your sins are connected to the beast, for you have 13 of them, and 13
is his number according to Hoggard.) Revelation 13:1 “And
I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the
sea,” Now I want you to think about this. (Are
you catching it when he's saying “think” now? Are your critical thinking skills working?) He's in
the heart of the earth. That's where Jesus said he was going and He
went to preach to spirits that were in prison so the beast is in the
heart of the earth and here's this graphic of Jesus pointing to a
heart with thorns in it. Guess what this is all about? John said he
saw the beast rising up out of the sea and even our own hearts are
surrounded by an ocean. (Now
this is laying the foundation for another doctrine that does not
agree with a literal reading of the Bible. He is laying the
foundation for the idea that the temple that antichrist will sit in
is not a real temple in Jerusalem, but in the heart of man. Why this
is not possible will be discussed later.) It's called the
pericardium and its the sac around our heart. It's filled with salt
water by the way. (So now you
are supposed to associate your heart with the sea.)
When
they pierced Jesus in the side, that sword pierced his pericardium
and his heart and the Bible says blood and water issued forth. We're
designed in such a beautiful way, the symbolism is here (again,
Hoggard is big on symbolism, but not on what God literally says.) and
I'm telling you this beast nature can come out of us. (Notice
how he is really working to point out how bad you are and how he is
trying to help you, so you should be grateful to him.) These
thorns can come out and choke out every good thing that we want in
life that comes from God if we're not really, really, really careful.
Let's get into the teachings of Freemasonry very quickly (Why
are we learning all this stuff about Freemasonry? How about teaching
the Bible?) concerning the acacia, concerning the thorns.
Here's what Manly Hall said in the Secret Teachings of All Ages. (Who
cares what he says. What does God say?) He says the body
of Hiram was buried by the murderers over the brow of Mount Moriah
and a sprig of acacia placed upon the grave. Now let me very explain
quickly who Hiram Abiff is. Hiram Abiff in all - now he's mentioned
in the Bible (Hiram Abiff is not mentioned in the Bible. Hiram, King of Tyre is.) - but the Masonic Hiram is all of the gods throughout
mythology that were murdered and are awaiting resurrection (What?
He's all the gods of
mythology? He was a real king of Tyre.) and we're going to talk about those in a
minute, but here in the Masonic lodge, they, you go through the first
three degrees, you with me here? (He
checking to make sure you are still accepting what he says.) You
go through the three degrees of the blue lodge and during this
process a play is acted out for you and actually you're a participant
in the play. You actually become Hiram Abiff. Hiram Abiff is the guy
who knew the secret.(And what
secret might that be? The same one Mike Hoggard has discovered?)
He had the mysteries (what
mysteries are we talking about here?) and he wouldn't tell
anybody. He was the builder of the temple, the body, (Hiram the king helped Solomon build the actual building, according to the Bible, he has nothing to do with our bodies. The Bible does not teach any of this Masonic stuff that Hoggard is teaching as seemingly truth.) you think about
that for a minute, (See how he
is now making you start thinking that the word temple only refers to
your body, and not a real temple?) and Hiram was murdered
by three ruffians, by three men. The interesting thing is when you go
into a Masonic Lodge and you see the reenactment of the murder of
Hiram Abiff, by the way, if you're the initiate, you're Hiram. And
they bring you down and the three ruffians, they smite you and the
third time they hit you they hit you on the head and you receive a
deadly wound in your head. That's what John saw in Revelation 13
concerning the beast. (John saw
the Masonic ritual?) See we're learning things aren't we.
(Oh, boy, did you catch that?
You are learning mysteries you never knew before. But whose
mysteries?) And you receive a wound on your head and in,
I'm not making this up, in the Masonic Lodge, you fall backward. And
you're murdered. You are the slain god.
Remember we said earlier
about thorns.(Now you are to
recall all those words he associated for you. He shows picture of
Benny Hinn.) Proverbs talked about thorns and drunkards,
thorns and drunkards, they go hand in hand here. (Remember
how I discussed that verse? The are not equated in the Bible.) When Hiram is murdered they
place thorns over his body. You see a Masonic symbol of a casket with
acacia on it. That's thorns that's telling you what this is all
about. And remember this, it's equal to drunkenness. (No
it is not.) And here we have a practice (Of
what practice does he refer? Having an alcoholic beverage?) and
I'm not trying to be anybody's enemy, (Ah,
we finally got to the threat.), I'm not trying to say
you're not saved, (worse threat)
or you're going to hell, (major
threat). I'm not saying that. (Really?
It sounds like your implying it.) I'm just saying that if
we're going to be Christians let's act the way the Bible tells us to
act (according to Hoggard's
beliefs and standards) and get our learning and our
knowledge from the Scriptures (or
rather from Hoggard's revelations, because while he says that is where this is coming from, he does not go by the
Scriptures but rather by his revelations) rather than from
what we saw on television or what we went to church and they were
doing at church (Now he is
jumping from talking about drunkenness to the practice of slain in
the spirit.). There is a difference. There's a practice
called slain in the spirit.
You'll not find it in the Scriptures. None of the apostles
practiced it. None of the early church did it. Jesus didn't do it.
Nobody, nobody in the Bible ever did this thing. In fact it didn't
show up until probably about a hundred or so years ago. Slain in the
spirit. (Now this is out of left field and has no connection to what is being discussed, but he takes a break from
talking about his topic to touch on a truth so that you are brought
back to trusting him, as when he gets away from sound teaching into
occult stuff, he needs to keep your critical thinking skills from kicking
in to question what he is saying. Most all of his followers do not
approve of the Benny Hinns of this world, so now he has his followers back on board
with him.) You know how its done don't ya? They walk up,
hit you on the head. You fall backward as dead. This whole idea of
slain in the spirit, slain means murdered. In what? In your spirit.
Spiritually dead. Slain in the spirit. And they say well it's like an
act of resurrection. That is what baptism is supposed to represent.
But not someone hitting you on the forehead and knocking you, and you
literally becoming drunk in the spirit. It is an unbiblical practice.
It is a result, watch this, it is a result of people who disregarded
the scriptures. Didn't let the doctrine come down as the rain and
water their lives. (Now you are
supposed to realize that Hoggard's teachings are the rain which will
water your life. Remember how I said this phrase about the rain would come up again? Before it was in conjunction with plowing up your stony heart. ) And the thorns came in and started
choking the Word out. This is a replacement for true Biblical
salvation. And true spiritual indwelling. That's what it is. (Now
that he has you back on board, he goes back to the occult teachings
he is teaching you, because this is the truth, unlike those replacements for true Biblical teachings. Yeah, right.)
Manly Hall goes on to say concerning
the acacia and concerning the thorns and Hiram who is Osiris, Nimrod,
Bacchus, Tammuz, the Bible talks about him. (Him?
Him who? Osiris? The Bible doesn't talk about him. Bacchus? The
Bible doesn't talk about him either. As for Hiram Abiff, there is no
mention of a Hiram Abiff in the Bible. The only Hiram mentioned was
the king of Tyre, and while he helped Solomon build the temple, it is
doubtful that he did any more actual building than Solomon did, so
the Masonic story is probably just that. A story. The Bible does
not talk about his murder. As for Tammuz, there is only one mention
of him where it talks about the women at the temple crying for him.
What exactly is Hoggard trying to say here? That the Bible verifies
this Masonic story? It doesn't.) The chest containing the
body of Osiris was washed ashore near Biblos and lodged in the roots
of a Tamarisk or Acacia which growing into a mighty tree enclosed
within its trunk the body of the murdered god. Now remember what we
read earlier. That a good tree cannot produce evil fruit or thorns
and an evil tree cannot produce good fruit.(So
now he is combining the Bible with mythology to teach his “truths?”)
You never see apples on a thorn tree. Never You never see oranges or
grapes on a thorn tree. And so this idea that the murdered god that
represents a tree goes right back to the garden of Eden (Whoa,
wait a minute. He's tying in the story of Osiris to the garden of
Eden?) because there were two trees. One had good fruit.
One had bad fruit. One gave life, the other
one had the sting of death in it and that's the one that Eve chose.
(So he
is tying in Egyptian mythology to the story in Genesis.)
He goes on
to say according to Manly Hall in the Secret Teachings of All Ages,
that modern Masons should realize the special Masonic significance of
the Phoenix, for the bird is described as using sprigs of acacia in
the manufacture of its nest. "We've
talked about this Phoenix bird before. The Phoenix is, and here we
get into Bible symbolism. (Wait
just a minute. The Phoenix is a mythological bird that is never
mentioned in the Bible. How could it possibly be Bible symbolism?) Remember,
remember when the seed is thrown out there what happens. The birds,
the fowls of the air with their wings fly down and they gobble it up
so it doesn't ever take root. And the Bible describes those fowled
creatures with wings as the devil and his devils. Think about it.
(Yes,
think about this. Get your critical thinking skills going here.) So here we have
a mythological bird. A fowl. A spirit. Okay? And it's called the Phoenix. And the Phoenix builds a nest. It lives in thorns. And the Phoenix is going to die, is dead and is going to be resurrected every
500 years the myth goes. (Now an abrupt change to talk about the Bible.) Incidentally it's the fifth angel that
sounds and releases the king of the bottomless pit, who is the Phoenix
(Wait,
what? The king of the bottomless pit is a mythological bird that is
resurrected every 500 years? Where did that come from?) and
these scorpions come out and sting men for 5 months. That's why you
have the 500 year cycle in the myth. It all goes back to the
Scriptures. (Wait. What?
What on earth is he talking about? Where is he getting this in
Scripture? There's no myth about a Phoenix bird that is resurrected
every 500 years in the Bible. And how on earth is that relevant to the 5 months of torture by these demons?) Have your critical thinking skills
kicked in yet?) But anyway you have
the Phoenix bird, that is cast into the fire, think about the fire,
(Yes,
please. Think.) now in Revelation
chapter 9 we have the releasing of the antichrist out of the pit. (No,
the king of the bottomless pit is not the antichrist. Antichrist
comes on the scene long before the fifth trumpet sounds. How else
could all those people come out of the great tribulation after the
sixth seal otherwise? He comes on the scene 3 1/2 years before the
great tribulation. He isn't released well after the fact.)
It's
interesting to note when we look in Revelation chapter 8 verses 7-10
we have a lot of things that are on fire. (Well
since the Lord told us He was going to purge the earth by fire this
time, is that really surprising?) That
results in the angel coming down, releasing those that are in the
bottomless pit. (The release of these demons is not because of the fire. They are released simply because they are the next judgment.) You have Revelation chapter 8 verse 7-10 'The first
angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood,
and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was
burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. And the second angel
sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast
into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the
third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life,
died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. And the third
angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it
were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon
the fountains of waters;'
You have all of this fire and burning
going on and then you have the releasing, the releasing. You have
all of this fire and burning going on. (repetition)
And then you have the releasing of
the angel of the bottomless pit. Revelation 9:11. That's who the
Phoenix is (again,
what is this mixing of myth and the Bible?), and
he builds his nest in the thorns. (What? the angel of the bottomless pit builds his nest in the thorns? )
Think about your life, okay.
(Think
again. And now somehow you are in the middle of this?) In the Bible the word
acacia is not found in the Scriptures. It is however the word Shittim
or Shitta. That was the word, that's like from an old Hebrew word,
that was the word describing the trees and the thorns of the trees
and here is something that is. (That
is? That is what? He's rambling again.) Remember
what I said, you've got all this stuff, we've already got the thorns
in us, right? Okay we've already got the cares of this world, and the
lust of other things, and the deceitful........we've already got that
in us.
Here's the interesting thing. God's so wise in what He does.
Primarily when you find the word Shittim or Shitta tree in the
Scriptures, of course it's the thorn tree. Practically every thing
in the tabernacle in the wilderness, remember what the tabernacle is,
it's this body right here, (Now
again he is making you accept the words "tabernacle" and
"temple" as being our body, not the real article.)
practically every thing in the
tabernacle that had wood in it, it was acacia wood or shittim wood.
Thorns. This earthly house, this tabernacle right here (our body is the tabernacle again) is full of
thorns and remember the tabernacle itself had twenty boards down one
side and twenty boards down the other and six boards across the back.
Forty-six, the number of chromosomes. (Again
with the chromosomes. He neglects to inform you that there were also
two additional boards for each corner adding eight boards to his sum
of 46 making the total 54. Not the number of our chromosomes.) We've
already got it in us. And this tabernacle needs to be dissolved. (Again with the threats? Yes, we know we will all die because sin causes death, but what about repentance? Is that never going to be mentioned?)
The
interesting thing, I like this now, here's where we're gonna get good
and we're almost done, the crown of thorns, the acacia, the word
Shittim or shitta in the King James Bible, it's mentioned exactly 33
times. 33 times in the King James Bible this
word is used to describe the tree that bears the thorns,(That
is blatantly not true. It is mentioned 28 times as the tree. Five
times it is the name of a city.)
think of the One, the tree, who was the tree of life (Christ is
never referred to as the Tree of Life. He is the Bread of Life. The
tree of life is a literal tree. This calling Christ the tree of life is
taken from Christian Identity teachings. They teach that Jesus is the Tree of Life, and Satan is the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.) and yet He had
done nothing wrong and He had never disobeyed God one time and yet he
took upon himself the curse that's what that, that's what that crown
of thorns represented on, That's what that crown of thorns
represented on Jesus Christ. (repetition) Number 1, it denotes a king. (Wait,
what? A crown of thorns denotes a king? Since when? I thought he just said it denoted a curse. None of the
associations with thorns that he laid down had to do with kingship,
and especially not a righteous king. Where is he pulling that out
of? A hat?) We saw who that king
was. (Talk
about confusing. First he says that what the crown represents on
Christ is a curse, then kingship, and now it's the king of the bottomless pit? What, a crown of thorns? I'm confused.) Revelation
9:11, it's the king of the bottomless pit, the Phoenix that's going
to rise again one of these days (again
with the mythology?). The thorns, it
represents the curse and it represents the specific curse that reigns
over every man. It is the curse of death. (I
thought he just said it denotes a king, now it's a curse again?) The
Bible says for it is appointed unto man once to die. We all are going
to see death and the Bible says Christ tasted death for every man,
but He took, because mankind is sinful, because we are appointed to
death, God had a way of redeeming mankind. It was through the man
Jesus Christ, who took upon himself the crown of thorns. (No disagreement that Christ took our sins upon Himself. Was the crown of thorns a representation of that, or simply a tool of torture?)
Think about
this (How
many times does this make for telling you to think?), the
Bible talks about Samson. (How on earth did we get to Samson?) Those that ruled over him were the five
lords of the Philistines. There's that number 5 again. (So
what? What relevance does this have to a crown of thorns?) That number for death (Says
who?) and here we have the five
lords of the Philistines who are not just reigning over Samson,
they're like literally over him because they're sitting up on the top
of the temple of Dagon, and here is Samson underneath and he says,
'let me die with the Philistines.' He brings them down. The Bible
says he killed more of his enemies in his death than he did in his
life. (And
exactly what does this have to do with anything that has been
discussed so far?) I love the
language in the Scirptures and the symbolism
(Oh yes, he loves that symbolism.)
of the Scriptures of the King James Bible. Because here is Jesus who
took upon himself the crown, the scourge in his side, the thorns in
his eyes literally, that crown of thorns he took that upon himself,
and he took the king, the one who had power over death upon himself
and killed his enemies in his death. Here's something else that goes
along with this. The Bible says this phrase, 'the beast', the beast
in the New Testament of the King James Bible is mentioned exactly 33
times. (This
is not exactly true. One will find the exact phrase "the beast"
33 times in the KJV. However it is not as Hoggard represents it. The
first time it is used, it is used to refer to a snake that bit Paul
on the hand. The other 32 times, it is found in Revelation and it
does refer to the beast known as the antichrist. But then if one
looks a little more closely one finds that the word "beast"
(without the "the") as referring to the antichrist is
mentioned 37 times in Revelation and each time it refers to the
antichrist. So the number of the beast is not 33 as Hoggard is saying
to make his numeric point. He is deliberately manipulating data for
his own purposes. And in fact, he leaves out the times that the
antichrist is called the beast in the Old Testament. Would not that
also be important? Should we not add those number of times mentioned
to the sum? The beast is mentioned in Daniel 6 times. Add that to the
37 and you get 43 times. So that shatters his numerology.)
"And I
mentioned earlier a movie, a movie about the birth and the coming of
the antichrist. It was actually made in the early 70s and the remake
came out this century. It's called the Omen. And it features the
birth and the growing of the antichrist, the man of sin, the son of
perdition, the king of the bottomless pit (No,
No, and again, No. The king of the bottomless pit is a different fallen angel. He does
not understand Revelation at all.) whose
father was the devil himself. His name was Damien. His last name was
Thorn. Jesus defeated the power of the beast, the power of the
antichirst, the power of sin and the curse of the thorns, which is
the sting of death. Jesus defeated every one of those by taking them
onto himself and His sacrificial death for us, he tasted death for
every man so that you and I might live." He
then goes to Colossians 2:13-15.
[And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your
flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all
trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was
against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way,
nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and
powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.]
and reads it pointing out we are already dead in sins. That death
reigns over us. "Remember the sting of death is sin and the
strenghth of sin is the law. It is against us because all of us have
broken the law." His
last point is that when Jesus died on the cross, death died with Him.
He tells us "You were born a
sinner. The thorns are dwelling in you, literally in your DNA. You
have evil things in your heart that you cannot make go away."
Then he
says that whosoever believe on the Lord shall be saved. At least finally he gives an answer for all our sins that we cannot make go away.
So
he has rambled through all of this information, wandering into all
kinds of different areas, implanting new definitions and associations
in your mind, harping on DNA and ending with what point? The point
that we are sinners who need Christ, because sin is in our DNA. I
understand that sermons should end with an altar call when they go
out into the world as this does, but this whole journey was the most
bizarre of wanderings. Like Hoggard says, think about what you have
learned here. Did you see all of the tactics of brainwashing show up in this sermon? If you did not, you must have been asleep.
In relation to something I mentioned above that I said I would explain, Hoggard teaches that when it says in Thessalonians that the antichrist will sit in the temple declaring himself God, he says that the temple is our heart. First of all, in Matthew 24 when Christ refers to the abomination of desolation, which this act is, he tells the reader to understand the reference by going to the book of Daniel. In Daniel we find that the abomination of desolation spoken of is the historical act of Antiochus Epiphanes when he slaughtered a pig on the altar of the temple and set up a statue of Zeus. This is the event with which we are to associate antichrist's abomination. To Daniel and all Old Testament people, the temple would refer to nothing but the actual temple. The idea of the temple being our body was not something of which they had any knowledge, so Daniel most certainly would not be referencing the temple in that way. Second, logically it does not make sense. Our bodies only become the temple of God when it is indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Bodies that do not have that indwelling, are not the temple of God. Now, taking that into consideration, if the verse says that antichrist will sit in the temple, and the temple is only referring to Christians, not unbelievers, then does that not make the verse then say that antichrist will delude all Christians and reign in their hearts, as opposed to reigning in the hearts of unbelievers? Then would not all Christians be lost? It is completely illogical to interpret that verse in this way, so Hoggard's whole idea of turning every organ in our body into a representative of a piece of the temple, so that he can make this verse mean our body is silly at best. Logic does not seem to be his friend.
