Wednesday, May 23, 2012

Mike Hoggard Part 3 - Are You Being Brainwashed?

In my first article on Mike Hoggard I gave a general overview of some problems I had with him. This article can be read at:

In my second article I focused on his King James Code using numerics. That article can be accessed here.

 Now on to a different subject, but one that is pertinent and important to understand.

There are different types of techniques used in brainwashing. Here are some things that are used for hypnosis that can help when brainwashing someone. 1) Build a rapport with the listener, 2) turn off their critical thinking, 3) make irresistible suggestions, 4) project authority on an issue, 5) help them (not necessarily in a physical way) even if they don't want it, so that they feel they owe you, 6) sympathize with them and stress the importance of them making good decisions (which of course you will help influence), 7) make them feel insecure about themselves as if they lack something (in this case knowledge), 8) make them believe your opinion is the one that matters, 9) shame, scold, or blame them or others, 10) use your power to make them feel threatened in some way, as in “I am right and you are wrong,” 11) use body language to manipulate them,12) find their weak points and exploit them.

When embarking on a course of action to change people's minds, it is important to also focus on an enemy (Hoggard is obsessed with the Masons and the giants and how they plan on changing our DNA), use repetition when speaking about this enemy to drive certain associations into the mind (he talks about them incessantly, repeating things and certain words (like DNA) ad naseum), and use words such as “imagine”, “picture”, “what if” (Hoggard's favorite phrase is “think about this”), to force them to see a scenario you want them to believe. Along with this, to change a world view or way of perceiving things, it is necessary to develop a new vocabulary. By that it does not mean to create new words, but to redefine words with which people are already familiar, so that later these words can be found in a passage, but the meaning can be changed from the normal understanding. (Hoggard does this quite a bit. In my other article I presented the following incidents - he redefined the word “folly” to mean a sexual crime, and he has redefined the phrase “Sons of God” to only mean angels, rather than angels in the O.T. and us as adopted children of God in the N.T., so that now he has us becoming angels upon death thereby changing established theology. He also has changed the doctrine of salvation to be about the giants.)

It is also a good technique to get people into a trance-like state to make them more receptive to these changes, by lulling them into a semi-conscious state. This can be done simply by boring them with rhetoric which rambles incoherently, as in stream of conscious thinking out loud or in use of constant repetition. (This is exactly how Hoggard preaches. He rambles all over for the first hour or so, never getting around to his topic at least until then. By that point I know my brain is screaming. I have to listen to him in small increments or I tune out, as I am sure do others. He also repeats ideas or words or phrases a lot.) In a half-asleep state, the mind is receptive to changes in definitions, new ideas which might conflict, and critical thinking skills will be turned off. In many cases, the things being said will not even be consciously heard, but will by-pass the thinking mind and just go straight into the brain for storage. People won't hear (by that I mean consciously comprehend) the things which would normally make them get alarmed and make them realize that something is wrong. I know this from talking to people about his sermons. They do not even hear the things I hear until they go back and listen for what I have told them he has said. Then they hear it.

While I will not say that Mike Hoggard is deliberately doing this, (I will merely say that Satan is very effectively manipulating him) the fact is, he is doing this. As already mentioned, when I have logged on to a sermon based on the title, I find that within that first hour, often the subject isn't even mentioned. He seems to start at one point, and then aimlessly wanders around under the guise of making connections between things based upon numbers or word associations, but often these things have no end in sight. When concluded one is led to say, “okay, and....what is the point? Where are we going with this?” After a hour of this, one is lulled into a semi-conscious state and not really listening to what he says. It is at this point that he starts in doing things such as redefining words. For an example of this, I refer you to the above incident with the word “folly” where he redefined it as meaning “sex crimes.” He also has spent time talking about the word “thorns” in one of his messages. Let me show you how this redefining of words could be used to change one's entire viewpoint about another person, so that one then might be prone to mistrust that person.

While when preaching on “folly” Mike never mentioned the passage about Paul asking the Corinthians to bear with him in his folly, and for good reason, let's use this as an example. During the course of this sermon, he redefined the word “folly” from meaning “foolishness” to meaning “sexual sins or crimes.” You now associate the word “folly” with sex sins and crimes. I also listened to a sermon he gave about thorns. In the sermon on thorns that I excerpt and use to demonstrate this technique below Hoggard leads you to the idea that thorns mean sin and eventually he leads to thorns having to do with DNA. Now I will give an example below to show you how this redefining works to change your entire viewpoint.  Given his redefinitions we will have “folly” meaning sex crimes, and “thorns” meaning “sin” and associated with DNA. Now look at where something you once understood in a completely different way can now be altered. First we go to the passage where Paul talks about the thorn in the flesh he has, and how he has prayed for God to rid him of it. 2 Corinthians 12:7 “And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.” So now instead of thinking, as most scholars have thought, that he was speaking of his poor eyesight (Galatians 6:11 “Ye see how large a letter I have written unto you with mine own hand.” This would be a thorn in his side as it would be a hard thing given his calling as an apostle and all the studying, reading, and writing he would need to do), we now must reinterpret it via Mike's definitions to mean that Paul has a sin. And not just any sin, but using Mike's definitions, a sin connected with a messenger of Satan (angels), and DNA. (Remember fallen angels corrupting man's DNA is his biggest message). Now you are taken to the passage about Paul wishing people were celibate as he is. 1 Corinthians 7:7-8 “For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that. I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.” So we see that Paul has chosen to remain celibate. Now we are taken to another passage. 2 Corinthians 11:1 “Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.” Now before adopting all these newly defined words, we used to interpret it that Paul preferred to remain celibate so that he could devote himself totally to the Lord and not have to worry about a wife. We also know that he had eyesight problems which has been assumed to be the thorn in the flesh that God would not remove. Lastly we have been told that he is asking the Corinthians to bear with him in his folly, which we used to interpret as meaning any little foolishness on his part, as we are all human and make mistakes. But you have been reprogrammed. What has your brain been set up to now see this as meaning, without anyone saying a word? You now immediately make the connection that Paul's thorn in the flesh is that he is guilty of sexual sins and perversions. That would certainly be influenced by a demonic messenger, and sex and DNA (genetic material via sperm and egg) go hand in hand and that is probably why he has to remain celibate. Maybe there is a problem in his DNA? Now should we trust what Paul says? See how this programming works? This new interpretation is not what the Scriptures teach about Paul. Not at all. But it is the interpretation you now come to thanks to Mike Hoggard's new definitions.

So this basically explains what I wanted to say about Hoggard's technique, but if interested in actually seeing it in action, I have below a synopsis and some transcription of his sermon on thorns for anyone who wants to be thorough in understanding what is going on. It is easy to find this sermon on Youtube by searching for Mike Hoggard and Crown of thorns. Understand that I do not disagree with some things he says, for instance, we all still do sin and need to repent, but notice that he never follows up his chastisement of us with telling us that we should repent and get right with God if we have sinned. He merely tells us how we commit some heinous sins. And Christ did take the curse of sin upon Himself, but there is much more inserted into his sermon than these simple truths. These are the truths around which he builds his other teachings, which are not necessarily truths.

Before beginning, I want to recap techniques of brainwashing. Start by rambling so that people become bored and only half listen so that you can turn off critical thinking (Hoggard is good at this). Build a rapport (he is very folksy and makes you feel like you are one of his buddies). Project an air of authority. (Hoggard is the one receiving the direct revelations from God, unlike you). Focus on an enemy (we see the giants coming into practically every sermon, as well as the Masons). Make irresistible suggestions, (he is always making hints toward an idea without stating them, and asking you to jump to the conclusion that he says are fascinating or interesting and if you can figure out what he is suggesting, then you are one of the “in” crowd), make them feel you are helping them (to see the truth that they are otherwise too dumb to understand), sympathize with their need to want to make good decisions about what to believe (so that they don't become apostate like everyone else), make them feel insecure about their own opinions or beliefs, (as if they lack the proper insight due to lack of special revelation), make them feel that yours (the person doing the brainwashing) is the only opinion that matters (Mike is the recipient of all this special knowledge from God, so his opinion is better than yours), shame or scold them so that they feel they should believe you and use your position/power to make them feel threatened, exploit their weak points (he will often point out how sinful you are), use body language (he is always holding up the books and using facial expressions), repeat things over and over to drill them into the mind (Hoggard is good at repeating things) , use words such as “picture”, “visualize”, “draw”, “imagine”, “think”, (Hoggard's favorite phrase is “think about this”) and redefine a vocabulary (which I have shown how he does this). Let's see how many of these things we find in the sermon below.

Direct quotes are in italics. Note things in bold print.

At the beginning of the sermon Hoggard starts talking about examples and symbols and the thorns on Jesus head at the crucifixion. He goes on for about twenty-five minutes before getting to where I pick it up here. He starts by telling us how thorns do two things - they pain and sting. “Thorns were designed by God to do one thing, and that is pierce and sting. So it requires a little bit of thought on our part (he's going to help you understand what you didn't know before) in looking at thorns. Everybody knows thorns, we all know what a thorn is. Thorns are all over the world. (the word “thorn” is repeated a lot). And so God is drawing this picture (use of the word “draw”) for us of something that we are able to recognize and we think about what a thorn represents. And what does it mean, why was it put upon His head? (Now you are going to get your definition). Why was it there? And so for our answers to understanding the crown of thorns, let us go to the Scriptures. (According to Hoggard all his definitions come from the Scriptures, but as shown, he manipulates the Scriptures to come up with his definitions and often uses occult Masonic books for some of his ideas). Let's go to actually the first place in the Bible that uses the word thorn, where thorns appear. We go back to Genesis chapter 3. As it was back then, so shall it be is what the Bible says.” (It doesn't exactly say it that way.) Then he goes to Gen.3 and says to think about what happens. (Again notice his favorite catch phrase that he repeats). “Number 1, we have the temptation of Eve and we have the sin of Eve and Adam. We have all kinds of symbols here, (most of Hoggards teachings are built on symbology, not the straightforward face value of a verse) the fruit. Your eyes being open. (Notice that he is implanting the thought that it is your eyes being open, not Eve's. He's telling you that your eyes are about to be opened by what he says.) The fact that Eve was looking at the tree and all three things that compel us to sin showed up. The lust of the flesh. The lust of the eyes and the pride of life. I want you to think of these three things as we study this idea of thorns, (repetition of think with guided thinking) because we're going to see it a little bit later. We're going to see it in the Scriptures, we're going to see it out of the Scriptures. (He is telling you that his ideas are also coming from a source besides the Bible on this – as a spoiler, he means the Masonic “bibles” by Manly Hall or Albert Pike) So number one, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life. (repetition) And those things that the devil used to tempt Eve when she ate of the fruit and she gave it to her husband. Those things had consequences. And I want you to think about this. (again telling you to think) Sin always has consequences to it. There are always reactions to our actions. God had actually warned, He had actually warned Adam what would happen in the day that he ate of the fruit. He said, ye shall surely die. And God's word was absolute, it cannot be broken. The devil also told Eve something else that we'll look at later on.” He then goes to Gen. 3:17-18 and reads it. “And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field.” He points out and says “now we are getting an understanding. (you are receiving hidden revelation via Mike, which makes him an authority and his opinion counts and makes you special for receiving it and here it comes). That “the thorns symbolize a curse.” (Notice how symbolism again enters in. And thorns are not symbolic of the curse, they are the result of the curse.) That now Adam will have to work and labor and eat bread in sorrow and he will be tired and hate his job, because of man's sinfulness. (By the way, this is not hidden revelation. This is merely what the Scriptures say, so revelation is not needed). That instead of good stuff coming up, thorns will be coming up. He says that they aren't attractive or good for anything and they hurt when we touch them. Then he says that we should think about things that sting in the Bible....(note how he has told you you will be receiving understanding, then starts guiding you toward the thought and associations he wants you to have) The Bible is going to say this is as that in relation to things that sting (he is telling you that he is going to be making associations, but notice that he says that it is the Bible making these associations, not him).....Disobedience to God seems to be the theme that surrounds this idea of thorns. That God tells us that when we are obedient things are good.” So now we are to associate thorns with stinging and disobedience. He says disobedience is the theme, but he adds far more than that to his meaning of thorns.

He then makes the comparison that just as God took Israel out of Egypt, He takes us out of our sins when we accept Him, and just as Israel promised to follow Him into the promised land God will lead us into the “promised land”. But just as Israel didn't clean out the land of giants when they went in (Here we go again with the giants. Everything always comes back to the giants, doesn't it? This is the enemy on which he focuses), we make all kinds of promises to God how we will be good, but we aren't. (Now comes the shame and scolding). He says that nobody after they get saved leads a perfect unblemished life. Then he quotes Numbers 33:55 “But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.” (So now we have been guided to also have a direct association between thorns and giants).

Now we are told that there will be thorns in your side as a result of you not getting rid of the things you promised God you would get rid of but didn't. (Here we see the shame and scolding again). He says that we defile ourselves and it is a thorn in our flesh. (Note that thorns are now associated with the word defile). It has consequences.Disobedience to God equals thorns. Thorns in your side. They hurt and fester. But this is what God said would happen. If we're not careful the thorns will thrive and take over.” He quotes Joshua 23:13 “Know for a certainty that the LORD your God will no more drive out any of these nations from before you; but they shall be snares and traps unto you, and scourges in your sides, and thorns in your eyes, until ye perish from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you.” (Again associating thorns with giants). He says to look at the exact language of the KJV Bible. He repeats several times to “think about it.” He now mentions how the people left in Canaan that were not gotten rid of due to disobedience became thorns in their side the rest of their lives and so do our sins. So now he has made the connection between our sin and giants several times by making thorns the connecting thought. (As he believes that the return of the nephilim/giants to infect our DNA with their DNA is the mark of the beast, you can see how he is leading you to see how his teaching of the connection between sin (accepting the mark) and the mark of the beast being DNA of the angels/nephilim/giants is validated.)

Hoggard then says that he has met Belial, who is the devil, several times. (Hoggard actually states that he has met the devil, Belial himself. Several times in fact. In person? How many people do you know who personally have encountered Satan several times?) He then quotes 2 Sam 23:6 “But the sons of Belial shall be all of them as thorns thrust away, because they cannot be taken with hands.” He says that the important word here is “as.” Of all the words in the sentence, the word “as” is the most important? He talks about the phrase sons of Belial or children of Belial saying that there is no fellowship between Christ and the devil. This is what he gets from the word “as”? (If he were to read the entire passage, he would find that this verse is saying that the wicked must be dealt with as one deals with thorns. One cannot gently take them by the hand and uproot them. One must use gloves and deal with them by chopping them down, as that is the only way to get rid of them.) Then he moves on from that and says that Gen. 3 teaches us that Satan has a seed. (Now again we see him leading you to the connection and thought that thorns are speaking of the actual seed of Satan, which includes the giants). That he has offspring. The sons of Belial are his offspring. They hate God and God's people. It says the sons of Belial will be “as” thorns. We have people all around us that are wicked, that are thorns. They will have an influence and do things in the church. “There is one particular identity in the Scriptures that thorns represent. There are two bloodlines in Genesis. The seed of woman comes to fruition in Jesus Christ. Who then would be the fruition or fulfillment of the seed of Belial? He then tells us to think about it. (An irresistible suggestion. It's a mystery you can solve.)

Hoggard then goes to 2 Chronicles 33 where it talks about Manasseh being taken among the thorns and carried to Babylon. (This only has relevance because of the following.) He mentions that Manasseh reigned 55 years and that the words “Satan” and “devils” are mentioned 55 times in the Bible. So you are to draw a connection between wicked Manasseh and Satan due to the number 55.  Why is that necessary?  I would think the wickedness would give it away. (Actually Satan is named 56 times and the word devil 60 times. Note his used of his Bible code to show you how right his opinion is in what he is saying in creating this numerological connection. That his authority of this knowledge supersedes your simple understanding.) He then makes mention of the importance of the number 5 and asks you to remember a pentagram. (All this about Manasseh has been to have a reason to talk about the number 5. Now he is leading you to make connections he wants you to make.) Getting back to the thorns, he says they represent the wickedness of the world. He then talks about God warning Adam about the curse and then he throws in this idea of thorns coming up and thorns sting. (Now we see he repeats the idea of stinging and he will start reinforcing that association through the image of bees). Then goes to Psalm 118:10-12 “All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD will I destroy them. They compassed me about; yea, they compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD I will destroy them. They compassed me about like bees; they are quenched as the fire of thorns: for in the name of the LORD I will destroy them.” This does not say that the bees are stinging, but are swarming.  And these thorns are on fire and being quenched, not stinging, so this verse really does not work on his behalf.

Now he gives you a picture image by talking about how people who used to sit next to him in church hate God now, and old time preachers have strayed from God and then he reads the Scripture above in Psalms. He stops at the words “bees” and “thorns” emphasizing them and asks what they have in common. He again tells you to “think. He shows how big a bee and thorn are and then references how big we are in comparison. He points out that they are small but have a sting. Then he points out another similarity between bees and thorns, and he shows a graphic. (So now he is bringing you to where he wants you to make the association of bees/sting, and thorns/sting – to the enemy). He goes to a Masonic apron which has bees on it and he says what looks like laurel is really a sprig of acacia which is really a thorn tree, so the Masonic emblem has bees and thorns. They both point toward something (which he isn't going to tell you right now, as he wants to keep it suspenseful) because they both sting. He stresses this is very important. You don't know where this is leading, but he will get you there.

He then teaches that Freemasonry teaches that if you will follow Masonry you will be rejuvinated or revived or be resurrected in some way. He says that a person or church starts out wanting to serve the Lord, that we are the vineyard of the Lord, then he says that while he doesn't believe in works for salvation, one must labor for the Lord to keep the thorns down. (This is true. He does also teach truths within his sermons, and I do acknowledge that, but Satan always has much truth in what he says too. It's the lies you have to watch.) He gives you a word picture (again drawing pictures for you) about gardening, and laboring to keep the weeds out. Then he talks about sloth and laziness. (Take note of the sins he accuses his listeners of during the course of this sermon.)  He reads Proverbs 24:30-31 which talks about nettles and thorns. He asks if you are “getting it”. (Notice the slight put down that maybe you aren't smart enough to get it without his help). That the thorns choked the vineyard because nobody does anything. That when you don't tend the vineyard, the thorns come in. Now he says that he's about to show us something that will makes us say, “Mike Hoggard, you're crazy. (Note now he tells us that the revelation he is about to give us is going to set off alarms and bells in our minds. He wants us to turn those bells and alarms off.) He then says that he just wants us to look at the Scriptures. (He is trying to make you see that he is only using the Scriptures to show you all this, but what he doesn't say is that he often changes the meaning of those Scriptures.) Proverbs 26:9 “ As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouth of fools.” (He now makes another association he wants you to make) He says that thorns are associated with drunkenness. (Notice that is not what this verse is teaching. It says as a drunkard cannot handle a thorn without hurting himself and possibly others, neither does a fool know how to properly employ a parable, but can use it to hurt others or himself. The thorns and drunkenness are not equated here at all. The point is a drunkard would not be capable of handling it carefully.) He then refers to Nahum 1:10-11 which he says is saying the same thing. “For while they be folden together as thorns, and while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as stubble fully dry. There is one come out of thee, that imagineth evil against the LORD, a wicked counseller.” Actually this verse says that while the Assyrians were as untouchable as thorns folded together (when they were sober and ready), that they would be taken while drunken and unprepared. (Again it does not equate thorns with drunkenness. He is leading you to think this.) Hoggard says now we have from these verses the following associations. We have thorns, we have drunkenness, we have a wicked counsellor. He tells us we know that the wicked counsellor is the antichrist. (So now we have moved from thorns and bees stinging to associating thorns with drunkenness and antichrist. He then throws in the information that there was a movie made about the antichrist called the Omen, which he apparently has seen, and most people are familiar with it even if they haven't seen it. It is a great picture to insert in your brain.  In fact he seems to have been obsessed with aliens, demons, and the like in his youth and spent much time reading or watching shows/movies about such.  Note how he is leading you down this path and giving you associations and pictures to keep in your mind.)

Now we are taken to Isaiah 34:14 “The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest.” He talks about the symbolism of dragons being spirits. (I don't see the word "dragons" in this verse, do you?)  They live in the wilderness, in untended, unkempt ground. (Now where did this come from? How is this verse relevant to anything he has said so far? Notice how he will now draw a picture and association for you, and because there is no Scripture to tie them together, so he will create the connection.) He says that because of the disobedience of the people, God will “choke them out of the land by thorns and nettles and owls and dragons will move in.” (He is combining apples and oranges to get peaches.) Now he states that in an absence of willingness to obey God, the thorns take over and now your mind will add dragons and owls to that.

He now takes us to Jeremiah 4:3 “For thus saith the LORD to the men of Judah and Jerusalem, Break up your fallow ground, and sow not among thorns.” He says that when you plant your garden you have to break up the ground first. Seed thrown on stony ground won't produce fruit, it dies. The Bible talks about beating swords into plowshares. He says that he takes the Bible which is a sword and turns it into a plowshare and stands in the pulpit and we let our hearts get hard and it has to be plowed up as it is hard against the Word of God. (He is all over the place with metaphors by now, and the chastisement comes again with him making you feel insecure and grateful to him for his saving you from yourself. He is in a place of power in your life. He is the one preventing these thorns from popping up by showing you all this "truth".) “Every now and then as a preacher. Every now and then as a preacher I'll stand behind our pulpit, and I'll take this sword and I'll beat it into a plowshare and while I'm preaching my intention is to plow up the stony ground of people's hearts. Stony ground inhibits God in our life.” He then goes on to explain that we get adamant about stuff and that we don't want to accept what the Bible says,(he also means that people might not want to accept what he says, which means they are an enemy, as he is one of God's watchers according to his own testimony) and we need to have our stony hearts plowed up so that we can accept what God's Word says (according to his interpretation.)

Then he says that we are to “sow not among thorns.” Then he asks us "Why did God say that." Obviously we are not smart enough to understand the concept, so now he takes us back to the book of Mark and Jesus' teachings. He says that Jesus interprets his parables and defines the words. (Just as he does). Mark 4:18-19 “These are they which are sown among thorns.” He talks about how we have thorns in us because we lust, after money, other men's wives, etc. (Again he paints us with the worst of sins, greed and adultery). He says, “Money is the biggest liar in the universe.” He warns people to be careful as they need to cut down the thorns in their life. (I thought Satan was the biggest liar, but he is equating money with Satan and the worst thorn and then immediately follows it up with telling you that you need to cut this thorn out of your life. Possibly getting rid of some of that money by throwing it his way? Now we get to the numbers game.) “We see the number three associated with thorns. (Where exactly did we see that? That's not on his numbers list. Check out the King James Code article) Heb. 6:7 'For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: (remember this phrase in bold print later on, for he will use another verse about the rain which will be again pertinent to his teaching you the supposed truth. Your subconscious mind will recall that this was associated with him saying that he was plowing up the ground of your stony heart, even though he won't refer back to this.)  But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.' This is what happens to people who let the thorns take over. There is blessing and cursing in this verse. The fruits are the evidence of our relationship with God, but those who let the thorns grow are rejected and are cast into the lake of fire.” (See how the number three now means sin instead of divine completeness? And where exactly did the number three come in?)

He continues, “Now we're going to bring something else in with this. We saw things that sting. We saw the bees and we saw thorns. Notice in Ezekiel Chapter 2 how God associates it again, (2:6) “And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns be with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house.” (Now Hoggard is going to create yet another association to move this thought further along the path he wants you to take. Look how he now creates a connection to make thorns mean “words” and "scorpions". While the verse indicates that in life people are going to be thorns in our side and their words may hurt, it does not mean that every time you see the word “thorns” you should immediately associate it with “words.”) Notice this that God is having Ezekiel preach to a people who are going to use words against him. What did the Bible say that the serpent used against Eve? (Now he has created a connection that let's him lead you back to the incident that will let him bring in his numerology and thereby back to his favorite subject, DNA. Notice that this journey from starting with thorns has meandered around for the express purpose of bringing you to his favorite subject, that of DNA and the giants.) 

There are some people who have this idea that the serpent, the devil, mated with Eve. The Bible doesn't say that anywhere. You know what the Bible says Satan did? He used words on her and God is saying that in Ezekiel chapter two that these words are like thorns and briars, and he's dwelling among scorpions. (Now we stop to draw attention to scorpions by having you think on the word “sting”. This will lead again to fallen angels via Revelation which again brings us back to the incident of the angels mating with women and creating giants.) Stop and think about it. (Again he is using his catch phrase to tell you that you need to force your brain to see the “logic” he is laying out for you.) We have bees, we have thorns, briars. We have nettles and they all sting. (Note the repetition of the mention of these things.) The Bible uses the phrase cockles and when I was a kid running through the woods we used to get cockle burrs stuck on our pants they have little stingers on them that grab ahold of things. We have scorpions. (Notice he gives you an imagery to visualize.) Things that sting. (Again note the repetition of the word “sting” over and over.) And in some cases like with bees and scorpions when they sting they inject poison. By the way, how does a serpent get his poison into you? With these little fangs in his mouth that, that pierce and they sting. (Notice the constant use of imagery.) You see how the Bible is relating all of these things together, (actually it is Mike that is relating some of these things together by not looking at the verses in context. He is drawing parallels to lead to a point of his own making, not necessarily of God's making.) bees and thorns and scorpions and nettles and serpents.(Note that none of these verses mentioned serpents, did they? Mike has pulled that into the mix himself.) Things that sting or things that pierce. Think about the Scriptures. Think about the symbolism in the Scriptures. (His entire teaching in this sermon has to do not with what the Scriptures say directly, but about all the symbolism he finds within them. So what do the Scriptures in context actually teach? You are never told.) And now let's look at things. These scorpions, these thorns, these things that sting

Revelation chapter 9 Verse 1 the Bible says 'And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as - there's that word “as” - the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.' 

And I want you to notice in Revelation 9 verse 10 'and they had tails and their stings were in their tails' (He misquotes this.) Now let me stop right here because I want you to be thinking about something in the Bible that has a sting to it and what that sting is. (Again he is telling you to think. How many times has he done that in this sermon? He is telling you to implant the idea that he is about to give you into your brain. Now if you have fallen into that semi-conscious attitude mentioned before, what happens every time he tells you to think? You obey the command and insert the information he is giving you as factual without using your critical thinking skills.) What all these thorns and bees and everything, what they ultimately represent. (Now we come to the point he is really getting to, for you are told this is the ultimate meaning he wants you to connect to the word thorns.) And by the way, these scorpions, these sting things, they have a king. A king wears a crown. Are you getting where we're going here? (Are you spiritual enough to understand this hidden meaning? Are you special?) Revelation 9:11, I think there's something (in this verse) about September 11th and I'm going to show a little bit of it. 9-11. (Catch the use of numerology?) Revelation 9:11. (Seriously? We are going to try to make a connection between 9-11 and the king of the bottomless pit through numerology? He's kidding, right?) And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. He is the king of all stings. Okay, he's the sting king. (A little memory devise with a little humor here?) I guess you could say it. There was a movie called the Scorpion King. It was about him. (I don't think that is exactly accurate. The movie was not based on the Bible.) The sting represents 1 Corinthians 15. It represents death. The sting of death is sin.”

He repeats again that bees, thorns, the serpent all sting. He tells you again to think about the king (the king of the scorpions).Think of what the devil said to her that was in contradiction to what God said. In other words the sting is coming. He got Eve to eat by lying. He added one word to what God said and completely changed the meaning. This number 5 is always associated with death. (Where does the Bible teach that?) The 5 books of the law are the law of sin and death. (That does not make the number 5 mean death.) The pentagram is the symbol of Lucifer. It has five points that “look exactly like thornsWhen he looks at a pentagram he sees a crown of thorns. (Again with the picture imagery so that you will see this picture in your mind every time you hear the word “thorns”.) Now he says that he has counted the number of words that Satan said to Eve. It is “Exactly 46 words which is the number of chromosomes in our cells. Where our DNA is stored. Our DNA always brings about death. It is built into our DNA. The thorns are built into us by way of our chromosomes, our own DNA.” (Now I cannot read Hebrew, but by going to an interlinear Hebrew/English Bible, it would appear that Satan said 28 or so words to Eve, as he did not speak in English. Even if it were a few more, which it does not appear to be, it comes nowhere near the 46 Hoggard says it is. But as he is desperately trying to get you to the subject of DNA, he has now taken you through this long round-about journey through the word “thorn” and ended up here in Genesis, telling you that the 46 (English translated) words that Satan spoke to Eve has everything to do with DNA because of the number 46. Can it be seen that this is sheer manipulation?)

Now he continues, “Matthew 7:16-20 Ye shall know them by their fruits..Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.” Notice how he's pointing out an association between corrupt trees and thorns and thistles. (Yet another association he wants you to have with thorns.) Now I mentioned the 46 words that Lucifer spoke to Eve in the garden associated with our chromosomes our DNA. (Again there is no association at all between the number of words Satan spoke to Eve and DNA. That is a ridiculous statement.) And I mentioned when we read this earlier, I mentioned about the very word of the Scriptures. How they were used to describe what the soldiers did with Jesus. (I don't remember what he said about that, but of course the words in the Bible described what the soldiers did to Jesus.  What else would they do?  I must have missed some mystical connection that he made.) Now, number 1, we have a crown, okay, we have a king, something that reigns over mankind. We have thorns we see the symbolism there (He is reminding you of all the connections he has made to the word “thorns”), but notice in John chapter 19 verse 2 “and the soldiers platted a crown of thorns.(Okay, now I see what he was referring to when he was talking about the "word of Scriptures" being used to describe what the soldiers did to Jesus. He's focusing on the word "platted." He is going to pull all these ideas he has been laying down together for you.) I've been studying the Bible and I grew up in church (He is telling you his credentials so that you respect his authority on this matter) and I've read that thing I don't know how many times and I decided to just go look up what the word plat means, when they platted a crown, and you know what the word plat means? (Apparently he thinks you wouldn't since he didn't.) They braided it. Wove it together. (I think most people probably already knew that plat meant to braid or twist together. To make a crown out of thorns it would require that they twist it together so that it would stay in the circular shape. It was not done for the purpose he is about to state. This is coming straight out of his own imagination, not the Bible.) It was a symbol of DNA. (Seriously? Are you going to believe this? The soldiers twisted it together so that it would resemble DNA?  They didn't even know about DNA.) The coiling, the coiling (note the repetition of the word “coiling” for emphasis) DNA. The ribbon-like (again, painting a picture) DNA. The strands woven together, platted together, braided together, (again, repetition and emphasis to implant the thought) is what they did. (Now we get to his favorite topic, DNA and Masons.)  

It's our own, it's our own DNA that's ruling over us in our flesh that's killing us and it needs to be crucified, it needs to be killed. Let me thrown this in here very quickly. (Now he throws in something he wants to implant in your mind that is not really on topic, but he wants that connection made in your mind.) We're talking about Freemasonry and their symbols, (we were?) and they use this sprig of acacia and I'll show you how in a little bit. They use this sprig of acacia and there's a Masonic emblem where you have a woman. Now a woman in symbolism always represents mystery Babylon the great (That is a very broad statement. Certain women in religious contexts symbolically do, but not every woman.) and she is a mother. And in this particular case this mother is holding a sprig of acacia or thorns in her hand and she is weeping over what Masons call the broken column. (Not to be picky, but in this particular picture, the woman is Virgo the Virgin and is not a mother.) Now the broken column in all the Masonic literature represents the god-like Osiris, or Bacchus or Apollo or any of these other gods who died and was broken up and they're waiting his resurrection but here's the interesting thing associated with these thorns, that you have Saturn. Father time they call him with wings, Saturn is another name for Satan, and you know what he's doing with her hair? He's braiding her hair to make ringlets, to make like DNA. (Are you following this, or is this rambling losing you? Now ringlets represent DNA? Really?)  

Think about a column that was broken. 9-11. September 11, 2001. 9-11 (Again he's bringing this sermon which was supposed to be about the crown of thorns on Jesus head to be about 9-11? And when someone drew that picture ages ago they had DNA and 9-11 in mind?) Remember the king of the bottomless pit. There are like three or four different versions of this (drawing of Statue of Liberty with twin towers burning in background) that I saw after 9-11 and I caught on to the symbolism of it. (At this point I feel compelled to stop and say that he isn't wrong about the Statue of Liberty representing Babylon or whatever goddess you want to call her, and that there was a reason behind the destruction of the twin towers as a sacrifice to Satan, but he is approaching all this in such a round about way with no real organization or sense, and inserting things that are manipulated and incorrect that one almost is required to dismiss it all.) Remember we have mystery Babylon who was mourning over the broken column with acacia in her hand and here we have these graphics of the Statue of Liberty, the goddess with thorns coming...she has a crown of thorns, seven of them, (I thought 5 was the pertinent number) and she is weeping over the broken columns of 9-11. Hmm. (I don't deny that the occult and Masons use symbols, and use them to refer to acts they are committing now. This is true.  However, he is again bringing in all this information in the most abstract way, so that people do not understand how this all applies and where it comes from.  Plus he is adding in things that are not correct, which then taints the true information.)

Here's what I was going to talk about last week that I, .... The Lord said wait and I'll show it to you. (So now the Lord (?) is telling him that he should not share things and that Mike has to wait on further revelations that nobody else has every known about 9-11? Okay. Do you want to believe that?) I was dealing with these things, the issues that come out of the heart of mankind and there was a....I've seen a lot of Catholic paintings of Jesus and they always depict Jesus in various ways usually with very subtle occult symbolism behind it and I want you to notice this particular Jesus. (He shows a picture of Jesus with his hand raised and pointing three fingers.) Number one he has his three fingers raised here. Remember what thorns represent, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life (when exactly did thorns start representing those three things, even though he has mentioned this before?), but it's also as above, so below. (Now wait, does he mean that thorns represent as above, so below? I'm confused.) We talked about that in several videos. Things of heaven fusing together with things of the earth. As it was, as it was in the days of Noah, the floods came up from the ground and the floods came down from the skies and that is a picture of what is going to happen. Angels are going to fall from heaven, and beasts are gonna rise up from the earth and it's the flood of ungodliness is going to sweep over planet in days that could be coming very very soon. (And as I predicted, here we are at the account in Genesis of the angels coming down and mating with mankind. This is his obsession.) And we see that image of Baphomet (shows a picture of Baphomet) whose holding, he's got two fingers here, three fingers here, twenty-three and then he's making the opposite symbol here, twenty-three. (He's showing that Baphomet has two fingers pointing up in his right hand, and three fingers pointing down in his left hand.) That's forty-six, that's our chromosomes, where the DNA is stored. (So Hoggard has discovered this mystery that has eluded everyone that Baphomet is symbolizing our chromosomes with his hand signals? And this came as a revelation from God obviously, because it most assuredly did not come from the Bible, where he should be getting his information.) That's where the sting of death is built into us right now." 

Hoggard then points out that the picture he had of what he calls a Catholic Jesus as the Catholic church uses this picture, is pointing to his heart which has flames coming out of it and thorns surrounding it. “Now remember, Jesus described thorns as being the deceitfulness of riches.” (Now we're back to thorns being about money.) He then references a previous video where he talked about things that deceive. Then he asks if we know what is the biggest deceiver in the world. He tells us it is “the heart of man.  Jeremiah 17:9 'The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?' Here's what Jesus said about the heart of man - Mark 7:21-23 'For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.' they're in our hearts.(Remember that I said to keep track of the sins he accuses his followers of. Never does he talk about repentance. Just accusations.)  And by the way there are 13 things here. The York Rite of Freemasonry and we pointed this out. The York Rite of Freemasonry has 13 steps.” He says how when you ascend up the ladder of 13 steps it teaches that you will become as a god, like what Satan told Eve. “Here we have 13 things that are already in our heart. And you can't say I don't have none of these, bless God, you've got em.” (Now he draws your notice that you have “13” sins that defile you within you. You are tied to the ladder in Freemasonry, and it's all about DNA.) “I want you to notice the symbolism in Revelation chapter 13. The number 13 is associated with the beast. (Now your sins are connected to the beast, for you have 13 of them, and 13 is his number according to Hoggard.) Revelation 13:1 “And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea,” Now I want you to think about this. (Are you catching it when he's saying “think” now? Are your critical thinking skills working?) He's in the heart of the earth. That's where Jesus said he was going and He went to preach to spirits that were in prison so the beast is in the heart of the earth and here's this graphic of Jesus pointing to a heart with thorns in it. Guess what this is all about? John said he saw the beast rising up out of the sea and even our own hearts are surrounded by an ocean. (Now this is laying the foundation for another doctrine that does not agree with a literal reading of the Bible. He is laying the foundation for the idea that the temple that antichrist will sit in is not a real temple in Jerusalem, but in the heart of man. Why this is not possible will be discussed later.) It's called the pericardium and its the sac around our heart. It's filled with salt water by the way. (So now you are supposed to associate your heart with the sea.) 

When they pierced Jesus in the side, that sword pierced his pericardium and his heart and the Bible says blood and water issued forth. We're designed in such a beautiful way, the symbolism is here (again, Hoggard is big on symbolism, but not on what God literally says.) and I'm telling you this beast nature can come out of us. (Notice how he is really working to point out how bad you are and how he is trying to help you, so you should be grateful to him.) These thorns can come out and choke out every good thing that we want in life that comes from God if we're not really, really, really careful.  

Let's get into the teachings of Freemasonry very quickly (Why are we learning all this stuff about Freemasonry? How about teaching the Bible?) concerning the acacia, concerning the thorns. Here's what Manly Hall said in the Secret Teachings of All Ages. (Who cares what he says. What does God say?) He says the body of Hiram was buried by the murderers over the brow of Mount Moriah and a sprig of acacia placed upon the grave. Now let me very explain quickly who Hiram Abiff is. Hiram Abiff in all - now he's mentioned in the Bible (Hiram Abiff is not mentioned in the Bible. Hiram, King of Tyre is.) - but the Masonic Hiram is all of the gods throughout mythology that were murdered and are awaiting resurrection (What? He's all the gods of mythology?  He was a real king of Tyre.) and we're going to talk about those in a minute, but here in the Masonic lodge, they, you go through the first three degrees, you with me here? (He checking to make sure you are still accepting what he says.) You go through the three degrees of the blue lodge and during this process a play is acted out for you and actually you're a participant in the play. You actually become Hiram Abiff. Hiram Abiff is the guy who knew the secret.(And what secret might that be? The same one Mike Hoggard has discovered?) He had the mysteries (what mysteries are we talking about here?) and he wouldn't tell anybody. He was the builder of the temple, the body, (Hiram the king helped Solomon build the actual building, according to the Bible, he has nothing to do with our bodies.  The Bible does not teach any of this Masonic stuff that Hoggard is teaching as seemingly truth.) you think about that for a minute, (See how he is now making you start thinking that the word temple only refers to your body, and not a real temple?) and Hiram was murdered by three ruffians, by three men. The interesting thing is when you go into a Masonic Lodge and you see the reenactment of the murder of Hiram Abiff, by the way, if you're the initiate, you're Hiram. And they bring you down and the three ruffians, they smite you and the third time they hit you they hit you on the head and you receive a deadly wound in your head. That's what John saw in Revelation 13 concerning the beast. (John saw the Masonic ritual?) See we're learning things aren't we. (Oh, boy, did you catch that? You are learning mysteries you never knew before. But whose mysteries?) And you receive a wound on your head and in, I'm not making this up, in the Masonic Lodge, you fall backward. And you're murdered. You are the slain god. 

Remember we said earlier about thorns.(Now you are to recall all those words he associated for you. He shows picture of Benny Hinn.) Proverbs talked about thorns and drunkards, thorns and drunkards, they go hand in hand here. (Remember how I discussed that verse? The are not equated in the Bible.) When Hiram is murdered they place thorns over his body. You see a Masonic symbol of a casket with acacia on it. That's thorns that's telling you what this is all about. And remember this, it's equal to drunkenness. (No it is not.) And here we have a practice (Of what practice does he refer? Having an alcoholic beverage?) and I'm not trying to be anybody's enemy, (Ah, we finally got to the threat.), I'm not trying to say you're not saved, (worse threat) or you're going to hell, (major threat). I'm not saying that. (Really? It sounds like your implying it.) I'm just saying that if we're going to be Christians let's act the way the Bible tells us to act (according to Hoggard's beliefs and standards) and get our learning and our knowledge from the Scriptures (or rather from Hoggard's revelations, because while he says that is where this is coming from, he does not go by the Scriptures but rather by his revelations) rather than from what we saw on television or what we went to church and they were doing at church (Now he is jumping from talking about drunkenness to the practice of slain in the spirit.). There is a difference. There's a practice called slain in the spirit. You'll not find it in the Scriptures. None of the apostles practiced it. None of the early church did it. Jesus didn't do it. Nobody, nobody in the Bible ever did this thing. In fact it didn't show up until probably about a hundred or so years ago. Slain in the spirit. (Now this is out of left field and has no connection to what is being discussed, but he takes a break from talking about his topic to touch on a truth so that you are brought back to trusting him, as when he gets away from sound teaching into occult stuff, he needs to keep your critical thinking skills from kicking in to question what he is saying. Most all of his followers do not approve of the Benny Hinns of this world, so now he has his followers back on board with him.) You know how its done don't ya? They walk up, hit you on the head. You fall backward as dead. This whole idea of slain in the spirit, slain means murdered. In what? In your spirit. Spiritually dead. Slain in the spirit. And they say well it's like an act of resurrection. That is what baptism is supposed to represent. But not someone hitting you on the forehead and knocking you, and you literally becoming drunk in the spirit. It is an unbiblical practice. It is a result, watch this, it is a result of people who disregarded the scriptures. Didn't let the doctrine come down as the rain and water their lives. (Now you are supposed to realize that Hoggard's teachings are the rain which will water your life. Remember how I said this phrase about the rain would come up again? Before it was in conjunction with plowing up your stony heart. ) And the thorns came in and started choking the Word out. This is a replacement for true Biblical salvation. And true spiritual indwelling. That's what it is. (Now that he has you back on board, he goes back to the occult teachings he is teaching you, because this is the truth, unlike those replacements for true Biblical teachings. Yeah, right.)  

Manly Hall goes on to say concerning the acacia and concerning the thorns and Hiram who is Osiris, Nimrod, Bacchus, Tammuz, the Bible talks about him. (Him? Him who? Osiris? The Bible doesn't talk about him. Bacchus? The Bible doesn't talk about him either. As for Hiram Abiff, there is no mention of a Hiram Abiff in the Bible. The only Hiram mentioned was the king of Tyre, and while he helped Solomon build the temple, it is doubtful that he did any more actual building than Solomon did, so the Masonic story is probably just that. A story. The Bible does not talk about his murder. As for Tammuz, there is only one mention of him where it talks about the women at the temple crying for him. What exactly is Hoggard trying to say here? That the Bible verifies this Masonic story? It doesn't.) The chest containing the body of Osiris was washed ashore near Biblos and lodged in the roots of a Tamarisk or Acacia which growing into a mighty tree enclosed within its trunk the body of the murdered god. Now remember what we read earlier. That a good tree cannot produce evil fruit or thorns and an evil tree cannot produce good fruit.(So now he is combining the Bible with mythology to teach his “truths?”) You never see apples on a thorn tree. Never You never see oranges or grapes on a thorn tree. And so this idea that the murdered god that represents a tree goes right back to the garden of Eden (Whoa, wait a minute. He's tying in the story of Osiris to the garden of Eden?) because there were two trees. One had good fruit. One had bad fruit. One gave life, the other one had the sting of death in it and that's the one that Eve chose. (So he is tying in Egyptian mythology to the story in Genesis.) 

He goes on to say according to Manly Hall in the Secret Teachings of All Ages, that modern Masons should realize the special Masonic significance of the Phoenix, for the bird is described as using sprigs of acacia in the manufacture of its nest. "We've talked about this Phoenix bird before. The Phoenix is, and here we get into Bible symbolism. (Wait just a minute. The Phoenix is a mythological bird that is never mentioned in the Bible. How could it possibly be Bible symbolism?) Remember, remember when the seed is thrown out there what happens. The birds, the fowls of the air with their wings fly down and they gobble it up so it doesn't ever take root. And the Bible describes those fowled creatures with wings as the devil and his devils. Think about it. (Yes, think about this. Get your critical thinking skills going here.) So here we have a mythological bird. A fowl. A spirit. Okay? And it's called the Phoenix. And the Phoenix builds a nest. It lives in thorns. And the Phoenix is going to die, is dead and is going to be resurrected every 500 years the myth goes. (Now an abrupt change to talk about the Bible.) Incidentally it's the fifth angel that sounds and releases the king of the bottomless pit, who is the Phoenix (Wait, what? The king of the bottomless pit is a mythological bird that is resurrected every 500 years? Where did that come from?) and these scorpions come out and sting men for 5 months. That's why you have the 500 year cycle in the myth. It all goes back to the Scriptures. (Wait. What? What on earth is he talking about? Where is he getting this in Scripture? There's no myth about a Phoenix bird that is resurrected every 500 years in the Bible. And how on earth is that relevant to the 5 months of torture by these demons?) Have your critical thinking skills kicked in yet?) But anyway you have the Phoenix bird, that is cast into the fire, think about the fire, (Yes, please. Think.) now in Revelation chapter 9 we have the releasing of the antichrist out of the pit. (No, the king of the bottomless pit is not the antichrist. Antichrist comes on the scene long before the fifth trumpet sounds. How else could all those people come out of the great tribulation after the sixth seal otherwise? He comes on the scene 3 1/2 years before the great tribulation. He isn't released well after the fact.) 

It's interesting to note when we look in Revelation chapter 8 verses 7-10 we have a lot of things that are on fire. (Well since the Lord told us He was going to purge the earth by fire this time, is that really surprising?) That results in the angel coming down, releasing those that are in the bottomless pit. (The release of these demons is not because of the fire. They are released simply because they are the next judgment.) You have Revelation chapter 8 verse 7-10 'The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;' 

You have all of this fire and burning going on and then you have the releasing, the releasing. You have all of this fire and burning going on. (repetition) And then you have the releasing of the angel of the bottomless pit. Revelation 9:11. That's who the Phoenix is (again, what is this mixing of myth and the Bible?), and he builds his nest in the thorns. (What? the angel of the bottomless pit builds his nest in the thorns? ) Think about your life, okay. (Think again. And now somehow you are in the middle of this?) In the Bible the word acacia is not found in the Scriptures. It is however the word Shittim or Shitta. That was the word, that's like from an old Hebrew word, that was the word describing the trees and the thorns of the trees and here is something that is. (That is? That is what? He's rambling again.) Remember what I said, you've got all this stuff, we've already got the thorns in us, right? Okay we've already got the cares of this world, and the lust of other things, and the deceitful........we've already got that in us. 

Here's the interesting thing. God's so wise in what He does. Primarily when you find the word Shittim or Shitta tree in the Scriptures, of course it's the thorn tree. Practically every thing in the tabernacle in the wilderness, remember what the tabernacle is, it's this body right here, (Now again he is making you accept the words "tabernacle" and "temple" as being our body, not the real article.) practically every thing in the tabernacle that had wood in it, it was acacia wood or shittim wood. Thorns. This earthly house, this tabernacle right here (our body is the tabernacle again) is full of thorns and remember the tabernacle itself had twenty boards down one side and twenty boards down the other and six boards across the back. Forty-six, the number of chromosomes. (Again with the chromosomes. He neglects to inform you that there were also two additional boards for each corner adding eight boards to his sum of 46 making the total 54. Not the number of our chromosomes.) We've already got it in us. And this tabernacle needs to be dissolved. (Again with the threats?  Yes, we know we will all die because sin causes death, but what about repentance?  Is that never going to be mentioned?)

The interesting thing, I like this now, here's where we're gonna get good and we're almost done, the crown of thorns, the acacia, the word Shittim or shitta in the King James Bible, it's mentioned exactly 33 times. 33 times in the King James Bible this word is used to describe the tree that bears the thorns,(That is blatantly not true. It is mentioned 28 times as the tree. Five times it is the name of a city.) think of the One, the tree, who was the tree of life (Christ is never referred to as the Tree of Life.  He is the Bread of Life. The tree of life is a literal tree. This calling Christ the tree of life is taken from Christian Identity teachings. They teach that Jesus is the Tree of Life, and Satan is the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.) and yet He had done nothing wrong and He had never disobeyed God one time and yet he took upon himself the curse that's what that, that's what that crown of thorns represented on, That's what that crown of thorns represented on Jesus Christ. (repetition) Number 1, it denotes a king. (Wait, what? A crown of thorns denotes a king? Since when? I thought he just said it denoted a curse. None of the associations with thorns that he laid down had to do with kingship, and especially not a righteous king. Where is he pulling that out of? A hat?) We saw who that king was. (Talk about confusing. First he says that what the crown represents on Christ is a curse, then kingship, and now it's the king of the bottomless pit? What, a crown of thorns? I'm confused.) Revelation 9:11, it's the king of the bottomless pit, the Phoenix that's going to rise again one of these days (again with the mythology?). The thorns, it represents the curse and it represents the specific curse that reigns over every man. It is the curse of death. (I thought he just said it denotes a king, now it's a curse again?) The Bible says for it is appointed unto man once to die. We all are going to see death and the Bible says Christ tasted death for every man, but He took, because mankind is sinful, because we are appointed to death, God had a way of redeeming mankind. It was through the man Jesus Christ, who took upon himself the crown of thorns. (No disagreement that Christ took our sins upon Himself.  Was the crown of thorns a representation of that, or simply a tool of torture?)

Think about this (How many times does this make for telling you to think?), the Bible talks about Samson. (How on earth did we get to Samson?) Those that ruled over him were the five lords of the Philistines. There's that number 5 again. (So what? What relevance does this have to a crown of thorns?) That number for death (Says who?) and here we have the five lords of the Philistines who are not just reigning over Samson, they're like literally over him because they're sitting up on the top of the temple of Dagon, and here is Samson underneath and he says, 'let me die with the Philistines.' He brings them down. The Bible says he killed more of his enemies in his death than he did in his life. (And exactly what does this have to do with anything that has been discussed so far?) I love the language in the Scirptures and the symbolism (Oh yes, he loves that symbolism.) of the Scriptures of the King James Bible. Because here is Jesus who took upon himself the crown, the scourge in his side, the thorns in his eyes literally, that crown of thorns he took that upon himself, and he took the king, the one who had power over death upon himself and killed his enemies in his death. Here's something else that goes along with this. The Bible says this phrase, 'the beast', the beast in the New Testament of the King James Bible is mentioned exactly 33 times. (This is not exactly true. One will find the exact phrase "the beast" 33 times in the KJV. However it is not as Hoggard represents it. The first time it is used, it is used to refer to a snake that bit Paul on the hand. The other 32 times, it is found in Revelation and it does refer to the beast known as the antichrist. But then if one looks a little more closely one finds that the word "beast" (without the "the") as referring to the antichrist is mentioned 37 times in Revelation and each time it refers to the antichrist. So the number of the beast is not 33 as Hoggard is saying to make his numeric point. He is deliberately manipulating data for his own purposes. And in fact, he leaves out the times that the antichrist is called the beast in the Old Testament. Would not that also be important? Should we not add those number of times mentioned to the sum? The beast is mentioned in Daniel 6 times. Add that to the 37 and you get 43 times. So that shatters his numerology.)

"And I mentioned earlier a movie, a movie about the birth and the coming of the antichrist. It was actually made in the early 70s and the remake came out this century. It's called the Omen. And it features the birth and the growing of the antichrist, the man of sin, the son of perdition, the king of the bottomless pit (No, No, and again, No. The king of the bottomless pit is a different fallen angel. He does not understand Revelation at all.) whose father was the devil himself. His name was Damien. His last name was Thorn. Jesus defeated the power of the beast, the power of the antichirst, the power of sin and the curse of the thorns, which is the sting of death. Jesus defeated every one of those by taking them onto himself and His sacrificial death for us, he tasted death for every man so that you and I might live." He then goes to Colossians 2:13-15. [And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.] and reads it pointing out we are already dead in sins. That death reigns over us. "Remember the sting of death is sin and the strenghth of sin is the law. It is against us because all of us have broken the law." His last point is that when Jesus died on the cross, death died with Him. He tells us "You were born a sinner. The thorns are dwelling in you, literally in your DNA. You have evil things in your heart that you cannot make go away." Then he says that whosoever believe on the Lord shall be saved. At least finally he gives an answer for all our sins that we cannot make go away.

So he has rambled through all of this information, wandering into all kinds of different areas, implanting new definitions and associations in your mind, harping on DNA and ending with what point? The point that we are sinners who need Christ, because sin is in our DNA. I understand that sermons should end with an altar call when they go out into the world as this does, but this whole journey was the most bizarre of wanderings. Like Hoggard says, think about what you have learned here. Did you see all of the tactics of brainwashing show up in this sermon?  If you did not, you must have been asleep.

In relation to something I mentioned above that I said I would explain, Hoggard teaches that when it says in Thessalonians that the antichrist will sit in the temple declaring himself God, he says that the temple is our heart.  First of all, in Matthew 24 when Christ refers to the abomination of desolation, which this act is, he tells the reader to understand the reference by going to the book of Daniel.  In Daniel we find that the abomination of desolation spoken of is the historical act of Antiochus Epiphanes when he slaughtered a pig on the altar of the temple and set up a statue of Zeus.  This is the event with which we are to associate antichrist's abomination.  To Daniel and all Old Testament people, the temple would refer to nothing but the actual temple. The idea of the temple being our body was not something of which they had any knowledge, so Daniel most certainly would not be referencing the temple in that way.  Second, logically it does not make sense.  Our bodies only become the temple of God when it is indwelt by the Holy Spirit.  Bodies that do not have that indwelling, are not the temple of God.  Now, taking that into consideration, if the verse says that antichrist will sit in the temple, and the temple is only referring to Christians, not unbelievers, then does that not make the verse then say that antichrist will delude all Christians and reign in their hearts, as opposed to reigning in the hearts of unbelievers?  Then would not all Christians be lost?  It is completely illogical to interpret that verse in this way, so Hoggard's whole idea of turning every organ in our body into a representative of a piece of the temple, so that he can make this verse mean our body is silly at best.  Logic does not seem to be his friend.

Mike Hoggard Part 2 - The King James Bible Code

I first wrote about Mike Hoggard and various problems that I saw with his teachings back in March, (and I have continued to update it as I heard more things) and that article can be found at , but I decided that if I were going to be somewhat thorough, I had to take a closer look at Mike Hoggard's King James Bible Code that he has created. Below I am going to put some of his quotes from his book, as well as some of his examples and show some of the problems. I will start by letting Hoggard tell you himself what this Bible Code is all about.

If I had to describe the King James Code in a nutshell, I would do it this way. The King James Bible contains a system of numbers that are consistently linked with words or phrases in the scriptures. It is understood that the Bible can be comprehended on many levels. The more you study the Scriptures and become accustomed to them, the more you understand the Divine symbols of certain passages that you never saw before. These must always come as a product of Divine Revelation.”

So the first thing you can see is that this comes not from a careful exegesis of the Word by laying precept upon precept, but is a product of Divine Revelation that cannot be had unless God grants you a special dispensation. Now while I agree that the Scriptures say that the Word is only spiritually discerned (this means that those who do not know the Lord as their personal Savior and have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit will not understand the spiritual applications of what they read), I do not agree that only some Christians will be granted this special privilege of understanding hidden things in the Bible that nobody else can ever know. I don't believe God hides things from us, if we study. Any Christian should be able to read and understand the Bible, just as they read and understand any instructional book, for that is what it basically is, if they diligently study it. We need only take it at face value and compare Scripture to Scripture on any subject to get a complete view of what the Bible says. When it comes to Mike Hoggard's Bible Code, you will not understand this code without special Divine revelation, as a simple study of the Word will never show it to you. To me this is the first sign that it is suspect. God does not hide things from our understanding if we study His Word. If I cannot understand it from a simple study of the Word, and can only get it by supernatural revelation revealing this hidden knowledge in a mystical act, which is what is sounds like when Mike describes it (he reads along and BOOM, suddenly he has hidden knowledge revealed), I would treat it with a great deal of apprehension. Hoggard preaches that Satan hides things, but God is very open. Well, he's right. That is how God works, so then why is it that so much of what Hoggard teaches is supposedly hidden and gotten only through this experience of suddenly having it implanted in his mind, rather than being able to find it out via simply reading and studying it?

So now we have a contradiction in his teachings. Oddly enough I find that while he tells people to stay away from people who teach via “special revelation from the Holy Spirit”, as this can lead to all sorts of heretical teachings, he is constantly telling us that this is how he gets much of his information. He also states that you should watch out for and stay away from churches and organizations that use Satanic logos. He spends a lot of time showing what some of these logos are, so that you will spot them. Why then when I went to his HoggBlog to listen to sermons, did I see ads for various companies before the sermon started, and one of these was for Disney World? Walt Disney was a high ranking Mason and Disney movies are filled with occult and phallic symbols. The ad that I saw pop up three different times had the wicked witch's magic mirror on one side of the ad throughout the entire ad. Surely that qualifies as occultic. Hoggard has told us to stay away from ministries that have these symbols. So now if I listen to him, he has told me that I should not be listening to him if I consider his warnings seriously, as he has failed two of his own tests. Is he openly telling us that he is attempting to deceive us, but people are not picking up on it?

Getting back to the subject, these mysterious numbers that Hoggard has come up with can only be understood through special revelation, not through study, as these numbers supposedly have special meanings attached to them that are not laid out in Scripture in an overt way that is readily apparent to anyone. I think anyone who has a fairly good working knowledge of the Bible would honestly say that they do see that there are some numbers that have significance. One cannot miss the fact that there were twelves tribes of Israel, and twelve disciples and apostles, and that the wall of New Jerusalem has twelve foundations and twelve pearls at the twelve gates with twelve angels. There will be twelve manners of fruit that yield their fruit every month (there are twelve months) along the river banks of the city which is twelve furlongs long, wide, and high. Twelve thousand of each of the twelve tribes are sealed in Revelation. Much of the design of the temple incorporates the number twelve. The altar will be twelve cubits long and wide. It goes on and on with the number twelve.

What is seemingly bizarre about this is that while the number twelve stands out overtly for anyone studying the Bible to see its importance, Hoggard says about this particular number “Although I am very aware of the importance the number 12 plays in the scriptures, I do not have as yet very much to report as far as the codes are concerned. Remember, all of this information that you see before you, has been the process of revelation, and not education. The Lord would tap me on the shoulder and tell me what to look for.” Is that not just a little strange? This number is not hidden at all, it is very visible to simple study, but therein lies the rub. He says that all of this hidden information comes from revelation, not education or in other words, study. It has been someone tapping him on the shoulder. Hoggard has assumed it is the Lord, but as none of this comes via Scripture but by special revelation, one needs to be careful to make sure one knows who is tapping him on the shoulder. One of the most obvious numbers, the one everyone sees as having importance and meaning is the one he can't understand? Does that not strike you as somewhat puzzling? It does me. Why would God not show him the importance of this number that is so overtly there to see?

As this number is so obvious to everyone, he does attempt to give some meaning to the number for he says, “The number 12 is understood clearly from the scriptures to be a number that is associated with the Church, both of the Old Testament, and of the New. Those who are in the New Testament Church are those whom God has quickened, or brought back to life and given a new beginning in His Kingdom. This gives them the association both with the number 12 and with the number 8. They are called the "saints". They are called saints exactly 96 (12x8) times in the scriptures.”

Now Hoggard needs to start creating numeric games since he does not know what else to do with the number 12. Since he has assigned the number 8 the meaning of new beginnings, he multiplies it by 12, which he says must stand for the church (as it represents both the tribes of Israel and the 12 disciples/apostles) to come up with the number 96 which is how many times he says the church (old and new) are called “saints”, therefore giving validation to his process. The problem with this? Well, I spent a lot of time, many hours in fact, painstakingly going over the number of times the word saints in all its forms (singular, plural, and possessive) is used. I used two different sources and counted three different times in all the following tallies of all the words and phrases listed below to check his numbers and in this case I found that the word “saint” and its forms actually occur 101 times, not 96. but who's counting, right? What's a discrepancy of five times between friends. Besides 101 doesn't divide by anything. Which brings up the question, how do we know when to add, subtract, multiply, or divide these numbers? Does that come by revelation too? I notice Harold Camping did the same thing. Shouldn't the math always be consistently the same? Does the meaning change when we add numbers rather than multiply? What is the criteria for using a different mathematical operation?

Besides the number 12, another number that is very noticeable in the Bible to the person who lacks special revelation is the number 7. Of this number Hoggard says, “As you study, you begin to see also that numbers seem to have a certain relevance in the Bible. Each number will have its own symbolic meaning. Things associated with completion or perfection will be linked with the number 7. An example of how this works is found in the phrase "Holy Spirit". This phrase is found exactly 7 times in the King James Bible. This not only reveals the Divine nature of the Holy Spirit, but also reveals to us that the Bible is a very unique Book .”

One would think from that statement, that he is assigning the number 7 to represent the Holy Spirit, but in fact, he makes the number 50 the number that represents the Holy Spirit. But let us first take a look at the overt use of the number 7 that we uninitiated folks have to use, due to lack of revelation. The first significance is found in that God rested on the seventh day. This is the day that we know God sanctified and blessed and later told Israel to observe as the Sabbath. When God took animals on the ark, he took the clean animals by sevens, not just twos. God warned Noah seven days before He would flood the earth. Jacob agreed to serve seven years for Rachel, then was given Leah by deceit and ended up serving another seven years for Rachel. In Pharoah's dream he saw seven fat kine followed by seven lean ones, then seven full ears of corn and seven bad ones. There were seven years of famine in the land of Egypt. Israel is to eat unleavened bread for seven days during the Passover festival. The Feast of Tabernacles also is seven days. The seventh month of the Jewish year has the most important holy day in their calendar, Yom Kippur on the tenth, but the first day of that month is the Feast of Trumpets, and speaking of trumpets, we find seven trumpets in Revelation, along with seven churches, seven seals, and seven vials of God's wrath. There are many other examples of the use of seven in Scripture that is easily discerned from simple study of the Word. Clearly the number 7 represents perfection or completion. In fact, the Holy Spirit is found to be a seven-fold spirit in Isaiah 11:2. Does that not make the Holy Spirit's number 7, not 50, if he has a number?

Above Hoggard said that the phrase “holy Spirit” (Holy Spirit (all caps) is only found once) is found exactly seven times in the KJV Bible. That is true, but why does he only mention this phrase? Does not the phrase “Holy Ghost” refer to the same person, and should not God have put it in a special number of times also, if the number of times something is mentioned is so important and codified in the Bible? It turns out the phrase “Holy Ghost” occurs 88 times. Oh, dear, that is a multiple of 8 times 11 and while 8 means new beginnings according to Hoggard, the number 11 means judgment and disorder, or chaos. Ooh, that doesn't sound too good for the whole numbers game he is playing. Maybe I divided by the wrong numbers, let's see. 4 times 22? Well, 4 supposedly means “world, worldliness, or creation”, and 22 means “light, revelation, or spiritual knowledge” according to him. So how do we marry revelation to worldliness? That still doesn't sound too good to represent the Holy Spirit. Maybe we should divide 22 again to break it down further. But then we are back to 11 and chaos multiplied by 2 which means “union, division, and witnessing.” Okay, I can get behind witnessing, for that is what the Holy Spirit does, is witness to us about Christ, but what about the other two meanings? How can the same number mean two entirely opposite things? How can it mean both union and division? Isn't that contradictory? I guess it helps to have contradictory meanings, so that when you need to divide a number (and every other number is divisible by 2), if you need it to be something bad you can use division as its meaning, but if you want the number to be something good you can use union? Is that how this works?

Let's continue to look at the Holy Spirit and a few other names He's given for a moment. We find that the phrase Spirit of the Lord is in the Bible 32 times, and Spirit of God 26. Unfortunately Hoggard didn't come up with meanings for those numbers, so I guess we divide and conquer? Let's see what I can come up with. 32 is 16 times 2, or 4 times 4 times 2, or 8 times 4. Well, 16 supposedly means love, that's good. And if we use the good definition of 2 (union or witnessing) that will work all right. A witness that loves us? What about 4 x 4 x 2. Well, a double dose of 4 as worldliness isn't too good, but if we use the meaning “creation” that could work, as long as we stick with witnessing. To use union would mean to have union with worldliness and that wouldn't do at all. How about 8 x 4. Well, 8 means new beginnings, times 4 meaning creation? A new creation? There, we've got it. See, if you work at it long enough you can come up with something that works. The Holy Spirit makes us a new creation. See how easy this is when you play the game right? I can do it too. So in my Bible code, (if I were creating one) the phrase “Spirit of the Lord” appearing in the Bible 32 times shows us that the number 32 means we become a new creation in Christ. 26 is a harder sell, that's 2 x 13 and 13 is a bad number. It stands for depravity, rebellion and the beast according to Hoggard. That would indicate union with the beast. Ugh, heaven's no. I think we'll do what Hoggard does in cases like these, just not mention it and drop it, because it doesn't fit our game.

Are you beginning to see how this game of his works?

Hoggard says, “Numbers are constant. They never change.” That is perfectly true. But numbers can be manipulated, as I just showed. To show how randomly meanings are assigned to numbers, let me quote him as to how he came to assign meanings to these numbers.

Listed below is a quick reference guide to the symbolic meanings of various numbers that are used in the Bible. This list is compiled from two of these books, plus my own research into biblical numbers. In a few instances, I depart from previously published material on Bible numerics, as to meaning and usage of certain numbers, but for the most part, there is a general agreement concerning a majority of these numbers. Notice that some higher numbers are the sum of other numbers, while others are the product, and others are “repeated” or the “multiple” of other numbers. Notice that when one is a multiple, it is often convenient to ignore the other number in the equation, which is why it is not called a product. What constitutes the reasoning between adding, multiplying, repeating, or dividing to find the multiple? Except that it is convenient for one's theory of course. Also he used some previous people's meanings, but when they did not work for him, he departed from them. Wait, then anyone can assign their own meanings? Wouldn't a number either have to mean something or not if God made it so? How can different people make it mean different things if God is the one who is telling them all what these numbers mean? Can't God remember what He told the others before Hoggard? Is God confused?

Here is Hoggard's list of meanings.

1 - Unity, Beginnings

2 - Union, Division, Witnessing

3 - Resurrection, Divine Completeness

4 - Creation, World, Worldliness

5 - Grace, God’s Goodness, Redemption (a number associated with the Rapture)

6 - Weakness of Man
Evils of Satan Manifestation of Sin

7 - Completeness, Spiritual Perfection

8 - New Birth, New Creation, New Beginning

9 - Fruit of the Spirit, Fruit bearing

10 - The Word of God, Law and Responsibility, Kingship

11 - Judgment and Disorder

12 - Governmental Perfection, The Gentile Church and the Jewish Church

13 - Depravity and Rebellion, The Beast

14 - Deliverance or Salvation, Multiple of 7

15 - Rest, The Sum of 8 and 7, the Product of 3 and 5

16 - Love

17 - Victory

18 - Bondage

19 - Faith, Sum of 10 and 9.

20 - Expectancy, 2 Compounded by 10

21 - Product of 7 and 3, Fullness

22 - Light, Revelation, Spiritual Knowledge, 2 Compounded and Repeated

30 - Multiple of 3 and 10, Compound of their meanings

33 - 3 Compounded and Repeated

40 - Probation, Testing, Purification

42 - Product of 7 and 6, A number of Completion

49 - Compounded Perfection, 7 times 7.

50 - Holy Spirit, 5 Compounded by 10

55 - 5 Compounded and Repeated

60 - Pride

66 - The Earthly House of God, 6 Compounded and Repeated

70 - Compounded Perfection, 7 times 10

Often, numbers above 12 will carry several different meanings, usually dependant [sic] on the context of the verse or chapter they are located in, or by what numbers they are compounded by or by what they are the sum of.

Notice that he says that the numbers will carry different meanings depending upon what you do to them or what chapter or verse they are in. Well, isn't that the whole point of this game? Making them mean what you want when you need them to? Notice also that he says that the verse or chapter number can dictate the meaning. Hold it a minute. The verse and chapter numbers dictate meanings? According to Hoggard, while the original manuscripts in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek contained no chapter or verse numbers, God incorporated chapter and verse numbers in the KJV Bible for the express purpose of creating these hidden numeric meanings. Really? I thought when He said that we were not to add or subtract from His Word that He meant it. That we were not to add anything to His Word. Isn't that what Hoggard is doing by putting meanings upon these chapter and verse numbers? Except for Camping and Hoggard, and probably some others, nobody has ever assumed that these chapter and verse numbers were for anything other than enabling people to find passages and particular verses in the Bible with greater ease. It's an organizational structure that was applied to make it easier to read, especially when everyone began to have Bibles and wanted to follow along when someone was reading. This was something man added, not in the sense of adding to the Word to give new revelations, but simply as an editorial structure for literary ease. To use this to find new hidden revelation from the Bible is simply ludicrous. If these numbers were added for any other reason, would they not do the very thing God commanded us not to do, add to His Word? That is exactly what Hoggard is doing when he uses verse and chapter numbers in this way. He is adding to God's Word, for these things are not in the original manuscripts which God declared complete. But then again, Hoggard says that you cannot get revelation from the original manuscripts, as they aren't as good as the KJV, because for one thing, the chapter and verse divisions and numbers are missing. Is anyone besides me seeing some very bad logic here?

Again, let's mention that Hoggard preaches against hidden knowledge, as that is a Satanic thing, but look what he says in this book about his Bible code. “I am amazed each day as I open up God’s word and uncover the hidden treasures that are contained in the Authorized Version.”

One of his first examples is the following:

First of all, it is noted that the book of Genesis contains 50 chapters. This is by design. It has the stamp of inspiration placed on it by the Holy Spirit himself, for 50 is the number for the Holy Spirit.”

I discussed this above. Exactly who decided the number of the Holy Spirit is 50? And why? If God's number is 7, and the Spirit of the Lord is a seven-fold Spirit according to the Word of God (Isaiah 11:2 “And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD”) would not the number of the Holy Spirit logically be 7? What on earth does the number 50 have to do with anything? And why should there be a connection between how many chapters are in Genesis and the Holy Spirit? If this is showing the stamp of approval, then should not every book in the Bible have 50 chapters? After all, was not the entire Bible written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit? His reasoning is inconsistent.

Another example of some playing loose with information is the following:

Nine is the number for fruit bearing. It can be assumed that since there were 7 of each clean animal and 2 of each unclean animal on the ark, that the total number of animals on the ark was a multiple of 9.” There is no way one can conclude that the total number of animals on the ark was a multiple of 9 from this. Let's use an example. Say there are 10 unclean species of animals. That would make 20 animals. Now let's add 4 species of clean animals. That would be 28 animals. All together that makes 48 animals, which is not divisible by 9. Nowhere are we told that there are an equal number of clean and unclean animals, nor was a complete list given of the animals taken so that one could count them to see if they were equal in number. In fact if I were to guess, I would say that there are far more unclean animals than clean. His statement is nonsensical, as is also the following:

Eleven is the number for judgement [sic] and disorder. In Genesis chapter 11, we have the story of Babel. Need I say more?” No, he doesn't need to say more. If I were to go to every chapter 11 of every book would I find chaos or judgment? How absurd. It happened to work out that way, it wasn't by design. If it were design, I should be able to go to every chapter 11 and find disorder, judgment, and chaos. It can't be done. Why isn't the number 11 about faith? Hebrews 11 is the famous “faith” chapter. Isn't that as valid as Genesis 11? If I wanted 11 to be about faith could I not make the same case for it as Hoggard does for chaos, only substituting Hebrews for Genesis and faith for chaos? According to Hoggard in the mouth of two witnesses a thing is established. In my other article (see link at beginning of this article) I show that Hoggard teaches that the word “folly” meant a sexual sin or crime (which is does not). He found at least two passages that he could use to make that connection, thereby having “two witnesses.” Well, I am about to show you why the number 11 should mean faith (this is tongue in cheek of course). The entire 11th chapter of Hebrews does nothing but talk about faith for starters. So the number of verses there are overwhelmingly more than just in the mouth of two witnesses. But I will present even more verses, although not all the verses I could. Mark 11:22 “And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.” Acts 11:24 “For he was a good man, and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith: and much people was added unto the Lord.” Romans 4:11 “And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:” Romans 11:20 “Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:” Galatians 3:11 “But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.” This of course definitely shows that the number 11 should be about faith, right? Is it becoming clear yet how this game is played?

Here are a few more examples. Hoggard says, “This phrase "resurrection from the dead", is found exactly 3 times, all of them in the New Testament. A few years ago, Dallas Holm sang a song that became one of the best loved songs in modern Christianity. The title of his song was "Rise Again". He took this title directly from the scriptures. It was a song about the resurrection of Jesus Christ. This phrase is to be found 9 (3x3) times in the New Testament.” Okay the phrase “resurrection from the dead” is found 3 times. The phrase “resurrection of the dead” is found 11 times. Oooh. That means chaos and disorder. The phrase “resurrection of Jesus Christ” is found 2 times. Does that mean union or division? What about the simple term “resurrection”? That occurs 41 times. Do you see how he is very selective in his phrases and numbers to try to prove his point? He ignores those things which do not work, and as nobody except someone like me, who gets so annoyed by this nonsense that I am willing to spend hours going through ferreting out this ridiculous information, is going to know the difference. He pulls the wool over people's eyes, because nobody ever checks up on him.

Just because I want to show that this is not just a few miscounts on his part, I will list some more.

Hoggard says, “These two words, "heaven" and "earth" are found together in the same verse a total of 156 times. This breaks down to 4x39. When we search for the exact four word phrase that is used in Genesis 1:1, we find that it is found exactly 4 times in the Authorized Version.” Here is actually how it breaks down. The exact phrase is given, and then the number of times it occurs.

“The heaven and earth” - 1 time
“heaven and earth” - 26 times
“the heavens and the earth” – 5 times
“heaven” and “earth” in same verse over 200 times (I got tired of counting) not the 156 he says.

Hoggard says, “Noah’s name is found exactly 48 (8x6) times in the Old Testament. His name in both forms (Noe and Noah) is found exactly 8 times in the New Testament. When you combine them together you end up with a total of 56. Here we find that the name of Noah is the product of Completion (7) and New Beginnings (8). What an amazingly perfect Book!”

The problem is, Noah's name is not found 48 times in the Old Testament. I counted three times to make sure, and it is found 46 times. 41 times in Genesis, 1 time in 1 Chronicles, 2 times in Isaiah, and 2 times in Ezekiel. The last time I added, 41 + 1 + 2 + 2 = 46. Noe is found 5 times, and Noah 3 times in the New Testament. So he is right in the New Testament number. Noah's name is 8 times there. How did he arrive at the erroneous number? Because he counted the daughters of Zelophehad whose daughters were named Noah (but they are not the Noah of the Flood, so they should not count), and he ignored the number of times Noah's name was given in the possessive, which should count. So the number of times the actual Noah of the Flood's name is mentioned is in total for the Old and New Testament, 54 times.

So what math calculation are we doing again?

Hoggard says, “The number 8 is the product of 2 and 4. When you multiply the number for division with the number for the creation, you realize that there will be 2 creations, the old and the new. This is the essential idea behind being born again. The number 8 is also the sum of 5 and 3. When you add the number for redemption, with the number for resurrection, you still have new life, no matter how you look at it.” What if we add 4 and 4, or 6 and 2, or 7 and 1? How about multiplying 8 by 1? or 2 x 2 x 2? Can you see the problem here?

Why does Hoggard add sometimes, multiply others, and divide yet others? And why choose certain numbers over others for the addends or multiplicands? Is it merely to come up with the numbers and meanings he wants? Of course. If God were really doing this, would He not be consistent with his mathematical calculations? Would he not always have us either add or multiply? How are we supposed to know when to do which? How are we to know which numbers to multiply or divide or add. It is completely arbitrary.

Hoggard says, “The number 9 is the number for fruits or fruitbearing We are admonished in the Scriptures, as Christians, to bear fruit. When we look in the scriptures, we find this principal exactly 9 times.” I have listed the verses he gives, so that you can take note of something. In this case to come up with the 9 times, he couldn't use the same words “bear fruit.” He had to resort to also combining it with “bare fruit.” A little manipulation there? He wouldn't combine Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost before.

(2 Ki 19:30) "And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall yet again take root downward, and bear fruit upward."

(Isa 37:31) "And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall again take root downward, and bear fruit upward:"

(Ezek 17:8) "It was planted in a good soil by great waters, that it might bring forth branches, and that it might bear fruit, that it might be a goodly vine."

(Ezek 17:23) "In the mountain of the height of Israel will I plant it: and it shall bring forth boughs, and bear fruit, and be a goodly cedar: and under it shall dwell all fowl of every wing; in the shadow of the branches thereof shall they dwell."

(Luke 13:9) "And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down."

(Luke 8:8) "And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."

(John 15:4) "Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me."

(John 15:8) "Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples."

(Rev 22:2) "In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."

Hey wait a minute. If we are not looking for exact words or phrases, but only the “principle” this time, what about the following verses?

John 15:2 “Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Matthew 13:23 “But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

Hosea 9:16 “Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.

What about the terms “bring forth fruit”. That happens 5 times in the New Testament in regard to bearing and three times in the Old Testament. Once speaking of the land, once speaking of the righteous, and once speaking of the wicked. Even if we leave off the verse about the wicked, the “beareth not fruit” in John, and the verse above in Hosea because they won't bear fruit, what about the other two verses and the 5 verses about bringing forth fruit. It's the same “principle” right? Shouldn't they be included in the count? That would bring it to 16. Not a great number when you are looking to make 9 the number of fruitfulness, is it?

But then Hoggard futher proves the point by showing that there are 9 fruits of the spirit.

(Gal 5:22-23) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.....Would it be possible then that the fruit of the Spirit be associated somewhere else with the number 9? Lets take a look and see. (Eph 5:9) For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;”

Hoggard shows that there are 9 fruits of the spirit in Galatians and that the fruits of the spirit are spoken of in verse 9 of Ephesians 5, so that seals the deal. But wait, verse 9 lists two more fruits. Goodness is a repeat, but righteousness and truth are listed as two more fruits bringing the number to 11. After all those two are fruits of the spirit, right? But oh, no, not again. We are back to that nasty old 11, the number of disorder and chaos. Well, that won't work at all.

Hoggard takes this concept of fruit being 9 further.

Hell is literally the reward and the fruit of those who remain in their sin. God even established a pattern for hell. The word hell is found exactly 54 times in the scriptures. This is the number for the wickedness of man (6) times the number for fruit (9).”

Well, yes, it does occur 54 times. In the Old Testament the Hebrew word is “Sheol” which is the same as the Greek word “Hades” which in both cases means the abode of the dead. In both cases the word is a little more encompassing than just hell, as Hades actually originally had two compartments (as Christ explained in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man). It contained both Paradise and Hell. After Christ's resurrection, Paradise was emptied and now only Hell remains in Hades. In the New Testament the word “hell” is translated from three different words. It is translated from “Hades” 10 times, “Gehenna” 12 times, and “Tartarus” 1 time. Gehenna was the Valley of Hinnom, a place of sacrificing children in the fire to Baal outside Jerusalem and was used as a reference to eternal punishment of the wicked, as opposed to Hades which is a general reference to the abode of the dead. The word translated from “Tartarus” is found in 2 Peter 2:4. Tartarus, is a special place in the deepest pit in hell that was created for the angels. This is where the angels who sinned by marrying humans were put in chains. Now I realize that Hoggard says that no revelation can be had from the original manuscripts and that a person shouldn't even listen to someone who refers to the original languages when trying to make things more clear, and one can see why he says this. In the originals his little game would not have worked, as there are four different words being used and they would not add up to that lovely multiple of 9 he so needed to verify his claim that 9 stands for fruitfulness (even if it means the fruit of the wicked).

The following is a deduction he comes up with that makes no sense to me whatsoever.

As I mentioned earlier, it is very clear that the words, phrases, verses, chapters and books of the scriptures have been arranged in a perfect order. It would be impossible for men to manipulate a group of documents in this manner, especially men who, in many cases, lived thousands of years apart. One pattern that I discovered about the Divine arrangement of the Scriptures was revealed to me as I read Genesis 1:1. This verse details the beginning of the creation of God. Notice it is in the first book of the Bible, the first chapter, the first verse. The first things always belong to God. I remembered that there was another place where there is a similar passage. It is in John 1:1. Notice that it also begins with "In the beginning", that it is in chapter 1, and verse 1, but what about the book. It is not the first book of the New Testament. However, from Genesis to Luke, there are exactly 42 (7x6) books. This makes John the first book of a whole new set!” First of all, the arrangement of the Christian Bible differs from the Judaic arrangement of the books in the Tanakh. The Tanakh is what Jesus used, so does that not present a problem with this “perfect order”? Second, my question is, what exactly is this “new set” of which John is the first book? It is the last book in the grouping of the gospels. It isn't an epistle, which all the rest except Revelation are. What is he talking about? There is no “set” that starts with John. He's not making sense. And as to men being able to manipulate a group of documents in this manner. They did not have any need to. Men like Hoggard and Camping manipulate them very well on their own.

Here are some more numbers games.

The phrase "word of God" is found exactly 49 times (7x7) in the Authorized Version of the Bible!”

And the phrase “Word of the Lord” is found 258 times, which is divisible by 1, 2, 3, 6, and 43. There's no seven there and it should mean the same thing. Did God mess up?

The Bible itself states that the Word of God is a book of parables. The word "parable" is found 49 times.”

Actually the singular and plural forms of the word parable are found 65 times. Should we not include the word “parables” when it says Christ spoke in parables as well as by a parable? I think plural usage of the word counts as much as a singular usage in this case, don't you?

It was Paul who warned us about a false gospel. (Gal 1:8-9) "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Notice that this warning was so strong that he mentions it twice to get the point across. There is a difference between the real Word of God, and the false gospel. Paul and Peter made sure that we understood this, because they spoke of The gospel of God. This phrase is found exactly 7 times in the scriptures. The 7th time it is used is an indication of what will happen to those who do not obey the real gospel. (1 Pet 4:17) "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?"

If Hoggard is so concerned about us not accepting a false gospel, then why is he feeding everyone a great deal of it along with the truth that he does preach? Is he not afraid of what 1 Peter 4:17 says?

Jesus’ title of "Son of God" in its various forms is found 49 (7x7) times in the New Testament. It is found only one time in the Old Testament, recorded in the book of Daniel.”

No it is found 46 times in the N.T. and once in Daniel.

Our Savior is also given the title of "Son of Man". This phrase is found 196 times in the AV. This number breaks down to 49 (7x7) x 4! The last place that this phrase is used is in Revelation 14 verse 14! Check your modern translations for this same pattern. Is this title found exactly this many times in any other translation? I do not believe that it exists outside the King James Version.”

Actually it is not found that many times in the KJV. Or actually it is, plus a couple more. The phrase “son of man” (Son of man) is found 198 times in the Bible. Of those times, 87 times in the N.T. and once in the O.T. it specifically refers to Christ. Other times it refers to people such as Ezekiel. If we only want the times it refers to Christ, we get 88 times. 11 times 8. Oh, no. There's that 11 (chaos) again.

There is a two-word phrase that is used repeatedly in the scriptures to describe the total authority and power of Almighty God. It is the phrase "most high". Truly, our God is the Most High God. He is given this title exactly 49 times in the Scriptures. Listed below, are the places where this title is either mentioned in the 7th chapter, the 7th verse, or one of its multiples.”

I did not feel the need to list these, as I have already shown that what verse and chapter something occurs in is irrelevant. The phrase “most high” is found 48 times in the Bible, not 49. “The most high God” is found 11 times, the “most High” is found 32 times, and “most high” is found 5 times. (Note the lower and upper case letters). That adds up to 48. I have counted three times (as I have done to all of these checks on his numbers) to be sure.

As we saw earlier, Jesus’ title of "Christ" is found 555 times in the Bible.”

After painstakingly counting three times, and this was a very difficult thing to do given the number of times it is mentioned, I found that the word “Christ” is used 554 times, the words “Christs” as in false Christs is used 2 times and the word “Christ's is used 16 times for a total of 572 times (or 570 if you want to leave out the false christs.) And he thought nobody would every actually count and catch him. The following are a list of words he gives and how many times he says they are mentioned.

Thunders (God’s voice) 7 times

Actually it is mentioned 4 times unless you count words like thunderings, in which case it still doesn't add up to 7.

"It is Written" 63 times (7x9) in the New Testament

Hey, what about the Old Testament? Why do we sometimes include it and sometimes not? It is found 3 times there.

Jesus Christ 196 times (49x4)

Wrong again. It happens 198 times. The phrase Christ Jesus occurs 58 times and paired together in a single verse they occur 4 times.

Kingdom of God 70 times, found only in the New Testament

Okay, but how about the phrase “kingdom of heaven” It is found 33 times. Wow 33, like the 33rd degree of the Masons? What if we divide?  Oh no, not that 11 again. By the way, if you check my other article linked at the beginning of this article, he said that the number 3 stands for sin. That was when he needed it to, while here he makes it mean “resurrection” or “divine completeness”. Now how can it mean both of those things? Same thing with the number 4. In one of his sermons (which I discussed in the other article) the number 4 was all about the fact that it stands for the spiritual realm, as it is the fourth dimension. He needed it to mean that, as his whole point centered on 4 meaning the spiritual world, yet he also makes it mean the world which is our realm of three dimensions. So which is it, Mike?

Bride 14 times

Yes, Bride is found 14 times, but only 5 of them are in the New Testament, actually referring to the church. How about the word Bridegroom. That is Christ, right? Well it is found 24 times, 16 of which are in the New Testament. So where does that leave us? I love this next one.

Daughters of Jerusalem 7 times (all in the Song of Solomon, found only one other time in Luke 23:28)

Okay, so the “Daughters of Jerusalem” occurs 7 times, (as long as you don't count the one in Luke making it 8?). He's even admitting he's fudging it?

Firstfruits 7 times in the New Testament

Yes, but it occurs 32 times in Bible.

Children of Israel 644

Make that 645 times, Mike. (And this took me forever to count.)

The Word of the Lord 245 times (49x5)

No, as stated above it is 248 times.

I think all this goes to show that Mike is manipulating the numbers for his own purposes, just as Harold Camping did. After all, who on earth is going to be so anal retentive, so as to actually count these things and catch him on them? ;-)

So as it can be seen, this King James Code of his exists only in his imagination, or rather in the imagination of the one tapping him on the shoulder and giving him the revelation, for I have some doubts about God being the one giving this information to him, since it is not accurate.  Now ask yourself, why is he deceiving you on this? Is he aware he is so wrong on all this?  Or is he so into listening to this spirit that is tapping him on the shoulder that he is oblivious to the discrepancies?   And if that is the case, should we not all be very cautious of what he might say, as this spirit might be able to convince him of anything, since he believes it is God? Anybody can go and count this stuff to check it out.  It is just that nobody (well, except me) does, because they trust Mike.  That is what Satan is counting on.  Do you really want to trust everything that he says now, knowing that he (or someone) makes up stuff like this for his new and novel theories? 

Part 3 in this Hoggard series is about brainwashing techniques and can be linked here.